EverSolo DMP-A8 with Denafrips Pontus 15th, both have i2S


For the past couple of years I’ve been using a Bluesound NODE (N130) with a Denafrips ARES II DAC (USB). I liked it very much!

Well, I got the itch to not leave well enough alone, if you know what I mean!

I purchased an EverSolo DMP-A8, thinking this all-in-one could replace what I had. It sounds pretty good, but, started missing my Denafrips DAC (which I sold). A couple days ago I ordered from audioman58 (Thank you!), a Pontus 15th Edition, can’t wait to get it!

This brings me to my question please. The DMP-A8 has i2S Output, which I plan on using to input i2S on the Pontus 15th (I hope for compatibility?). Is there still a reason to get a Denafrips DDC? Or, am I most of the way there with i2S on both my streamer and DAC?

Thanks,

Tom

tom899

Just so I understand further, feeding the Pontus with USB vs i2S, this only affects which device controls the clock (with USB, the Pontus controls the clock, with i2S the A8 controls the clock).

Yes but you may notice one sounds better than the other to you.

And, to further understand, In either way, the Pontus DAC is utilized. Please correct me if I’m wrong.

If you are using a digital output from the A8 the Pontus is doing the digital to analog conversion. So in both case of usb and I2S, as both are digital outputs bypassing the internal dac of the A8, yes the Pontus dac is utilized.

@tom899  hope you enjoy the Pontus 15th; I've had mine since June. I also moved from an Ares (12th-1). I don't think you'll be disappointed 👍

Let us know what you think once it's arrived

 

Happy Listening 👍😊

A DDC between source and DAC is normally for “cleaning up” and improving USB input, most often from PC as streaming or SSD source. While a streamer like EverSolo is also a computer inside a box, streamers are designed for one purpose and don’t have same noise levels as a PC feeding a DAC by USB. From what I’ve read, EverSolo is an excellent product, likely well designed and implemented, so I doubt a DDC clock in between would make much of an audible difference.
 

Clocks, from good, better to best are FEMTO, TCXO, OCXO. I have a Pontus II 12th (FEMTO) fed by an IRIS (TXCO) via I2S from a dedicated fan-less silent miniPC via USB. I can tell a pretty significant difference with the IRIS in the chain, call it 10-15% better. Darker background, more soundstage depth and detail.  It may be confirmation bias, but I was also able to discern a difference (better by 10%) when I had a Topping D90LE (FEMTO) in the chain.  The Topping was best in class SINAD when released, a very transparent, clean, no coloration presentation. I don’t consider darker backgrounds, details and soundstage depth to be color, bur definitely improvement!  

However, like you I prefer the sound signature of the Denafrips R2R NOS. The Denafrips website states the Pontus 15th has LPNO crystal oscillators (don’t know where that fits in the good, better, best!) that reclock the signal to reduce jitter.  So I think you’d be getting better clocking than from the EverSolo, even though the source usually conrols timing, at least with USB input.  Also, it doesn’t look like the Pontus 15th has world clock inputs, so I’m not sure you could synch the  Pontus 15th with a world clock DDC like you can with the Venus or Terminator. 

Conclusion, I think you’ll be very happy streaming the EverSolo bypassing its DAC to the Pontus 15th!