2. digital
  3. 192134-189088

Lampizator Golden Gate R2R vs Delta Sigma

I’m still looking for proper Lampizator DAC and saw an offer for Golden Gate R2R version. Can anyone tell what is the difference in sound between r2r and delta-sigma version?

Will I regret choosing r2r or vice versa?

Another question - I use usually a Mac to upsample music from streaming services to DSD, does it make sense with r2r version? Thanks for any comments :)

gabriel123
hgeifman
2,330 posts
 

@gabriel123,

I am sorry but I cannot really answer your question. As I stated above, I switched back and forth for 2-weeks and felt the R2R Setting sounded better BUT ALSO FELT the difference between R2R and Delta-Sigma DACs was VERY SUBTLE rather than huge. I also believe every listener has preferences based on their equipment, environment and room. This means there is no right and wrong answer.

I believe the choice between R2R and Delta-Sigma DACs for high-fidelity audio is subjective and depends on personal preferences. Yes, it seems R2R DACs are often favored by audiophiles for their natural, analog-like sound and simplicity, providing a warm and musical experience. HOWEVER, it also seems Delta-Sigma DACs offer high resolution and clarity through oversampling and noise shaping, making them excellent for detailed and precise audio reproduction. Each type has its strengths, so the “better” decision depends on whether you prioritize warmth and musicality or detail and precision in your audio experience. In other words, what DAC sounds the best to you.

I am lucky since my BRICASTI M21 DAC has both a R2R DAC and Delta-Sigma DAC so I can switch back and forth. I do not pay much attention since the differences are very subtle. I just switched my DAC to the Delta-Sigma setting and will use this setting for a while. Yes, it sounds good and I like it.

I said this above and need to say it again. I suggest you forget the technology and DECIDE what DAC sounds the best to you. If you are unable to audition, you need to rely on reviews, friends and Audiogon posts. I encourage others to post their comments on this topic.

hgeifman
2,330 posts
 

@gabriel123,

One more thing. It is not the technology (R2R, Delta-Sigma, DSD) that makes a DAC sound great. It is the implementation of that technology that makes the DAC sound great. And, of course, the synergy of all your components including the room, etc.

Someone on Audiogon posted "The critical thing is how the DAC sounds. Technology is important for the engineers designing the component, but implementation is everything".

hgeifman
2,330 posts
 

 

@gabriel123,

I searched and found the following info that you might find interesting.  HOWEVER, as I said above, it is the implementation of the technology that makes the great sound. Your choice depends on your personal preference of what sounds good.  I cannot make that decision for you and suggest you continue to research the topic. 

”R2R DACs and Delta-Sigma DACs are two distinct technologies with unique characteristics:

• R2R DACs: These use a resistor ladder network to convert digital signals to analog. They are known for their simplicity, excellent linearity, and natural sound quality, making them favored by audiophiles for high-end audio applications. However, they can be more expensive due to the precision resistors required.

• Delta-Sigma DACs: These use oversampling and noise shaping to achieve high resolution. They are cost-effective and widely used in consumer electronics but can introduce non-linearities and latency due to their complex algorithms. Some audiophiles perceive their sound as less warm compared to R2R DACs.

The choice between these DACs depends on application needs, budget, and sound quality preferences.

For classical music, the Lampizator Golden Gate R2R DAC is generally better suited due to its natural, analog-like sound and organic tonal presentation, which complements the rich textures and dynamics of orchestral and acoustic performances. The Delta-Sigma version, while offering higher resolution and detail, may lack the warmth and musicality that many audiophiles prefer for classical genres.

The soundstage comparison between the Lampizator Golden Gate R2R and Delta-Sigma DACs highlights distinct differences:

• Lampizator Golden Gate R2R DAC: Known for its deep, organic, and natural soundstage, it excels in creating a more immersive and analog-like experience. This design often provides a sense of spaciousness and realism that many listeners find appealing for its musicality.

• Lampizator Golden Gate Delta-Sigma DAC: Offers precise and detailed sound reproduction, which can result in a more analytical soundstage. While it may not match the R2R’s warmth, it provides clarity and accuracy that some listeners prefer.

Ultimately, the choice depends on personal preference for either a more natural or detailed sound presentation”.  

 

gabriel123 OP
35 posts
 

Thank you again for all the informations and your great insight!

What's interesting, you can't buy new Lampizator with R2R. With previous models like Big7 and GG1 there was an option to choose between R2R and Delta-Sigma, now all are sold with an unknown DS chip, as it's preferred by the owner.   

More to discover