Room setting: new amp or new speakers?


hello gys,

My Hi-Fi journey is rolling on, and over the past few weeks, I’ve had the chance to dive into some amazing gear—like tube amps and high-efficiency speakers. It’s been super fun, but now I’ve hit a bit of a dilemma.

Here’s my current setup:

  • Amp: Yamaha AX-396, pretty old, low value

  • Speakers: Sonus Faber Venere 1.5 bookshelf speakers, definitely ’better’ than the amp

  • Streamer: Bluesound Node N130

I’m planning a big overhaul of my system, but I can’t decide what to upgrade first

A little more info:

  • Room size: 55m² (so, pretty spacious).

  • Current speaker placement: Sitting on a bookshelf, positioned to the side of the sofa (definitely not ideal) - see pic

  • Ideal setup: Properly placed speakers facing the sofa for proper sound.

My thoughts:

  • If I upgrade the amp first, I might squeeze more out of my current speakers - which are not as bad —but will their awkward placement limit the improvement?

  • Upgrading the speakers with floorstanding will come with new position + higher quality (2x the ROI?) AFAIK they account for big big part of the final sound. then will do the amp.

I’d love to hear what you think! Have you been in a similar spot? Which upgrade made the biggest difference for you?

Let me know your thoughts! thank you so much

albymana

 

If I upgrade the amp first, I might squeeze more out of my current speakers - which are not as bad —but will their awkward placement limit the improvement?

I reviewed Venere 2.5 and you should upgrade your speakers and do that first and then choose an amp that has sufficient power to drive them properly and synergize with them sonically. Your room warrants either floorstanders or monitors with at least one — and preferably two — subs. And yes, speaker placement is absolutely killing your performance. Don’t waste your money on better equipment if you plan on keeping the speakers on bookshelves and just continue to enjoy what you have. 95% of all good speakers will want at least a couple feet from the back wall to have sufficient room to breathe and fully open up and balance properly. Get the speakers right first — find the ones that really blow you away, and then everything else flows from there. The speakers are the only component that physically interacts with both your ears and your room, which is why it’s absolutely critical to get that really right. Your Node could continue to be very serviceable and much better (as a streamer only) if you add an external linear power supply from the likes of Teddy Pardo, SBooster, or LHY. If you’re using the DAC in the Node you’ll also need a better DAC to do your new system justice. If you share what improvements you’re looking for and what sound characteristics are most important to you, you’ll get some really good and targeted recommendations here.  Just my $0.02 off the top FWIW, and best of luck.  Incidentally, what electronics and speakers have you heard thus far that you really liked?

I second soix's recommendation to start with speakers, then electronics.  And speaker placement makes or breaks a good speaker.  Good luck and enjoy.

 

Thank you so much for the very insightful replies!

to your point @soix , I had the chance of listening to a pair of Devore o/baby and pair of Audio Note An/k both of which I liked a lot: big sound stage, very live feeling. For my room, a pair of AN/E would definitely fit
 

also listened to a few less “exotic” brand like KEF R2, Monitor audio, Sonus Faber: but none really impressed me like the AN and Devore. 

electronic wise: Audio Note I Zero - despite being 8wpc and entry level - impressed me the most. The Oto also was amazing. Along solid states I liked Naim Xs3 > Rega Elicit while I felt Hegel 190 was too “thin”

PS none of the sessions I did was with a sub, and honestly I did not feel the necessity (in particular, AN + Devore, AN + AN/K)