«Today’s Lyrics Are Pathetically Bad» Rick Beato


He know better than me. He is a musician and i am not.  I dont listen contemporary lyrics anyway, they are not all bad for sure, but what is good enough  is few waves in an ocean of bad to worst...

I will never dare to claim it because i am old, not a musician anyway,  i listen classical old music and world music and Jazz...

And old very old lyrics from Franco-Flemish school to Léo Ferré and to the genius  Bob Dylan Dylan...

Just write what you think about Beato informed opinion...

I like him because he spoke bluntly and is enthusiast musician ...

 

 

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQoWUtsVFV0

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@mahgister I’m trying not to be rude. This rap stuff is a long part of my history, culture and community and I think I may know more about it than you do.

 

No offence!

You are right and knowledgeable more than me about Rap meanings and history...

My point is about the mechanization of music , musicians and the public... The point made by Beato...

There is genius poets in jazz music and songs as there is in all genre rap included...Even nowadays for sure...

My point stemming from Beato video is about mechanisation and manufacturing of lyrics and music ...

I had my taste but i am not deaf...

I did not like blues for example till i listen Hooker and Waters and few others...

There is genius everywhere...

But there is also by the industry growing monster a mechanization of mind and public...

And this mechanization reach a point of great power over artists and public molding their minds in the last 30 years...

 

It is my opinion but i am not an informed musician...

 

We need frogman ... cool

 

 

'While some interpretations of the song would like to see it primarily as a celebration of a drug counterculture, any pretence the phrase “Brown Sugar” is other than a reference to a black woman falls away in the final lyric of the studio album.'

I won't argue with that; I was only remembering what someone who was theoretically an "insider"  stated in a book.  

Disclosure - I'm a 70 year old boomer and I'm becoming crotchety in my old age.

@8th-note , you've got five years on me, but how did your dad feel about Dylan and The Beatles?  I remember that my dad did not like either of them--not at all.  

I [...] mostly treat the vocals as another instrument.

I also like music that have vocals in languages I don’t understand

@oberoniaomnia is making an excellent point about the relative importance of lyrics.

I grew up listening to music in a language I did not understand, so I too treated the voice as an instrument. Those voices conveyed feeling and emotion, but about what? I did not know, and that was okay.

Later, I discovered that songs I really liked actually had embarrassing lyrics and I had to stop liking them, and the other way around.

To this day, I enjoy listening to music in languages in which I am not fluent or that I don’t understand at all.

I like darkwave too, and I don’t know why darkwave artists insist on singing. A good example is Hante., her lyrics are terrible (she writes in English, a language she obviously does not know well) and her voice is awful, but she’s a fabulous DJ. If only she kept her music instrumental.

 

@immatthewj - My parents didn't like long hair, especially when I let my hair grow, but they were pretty tolerant of new music. You mention Dylan and the Beatles and they are a great contrast with most of the popular music of today. The lyrics from the early Beatles were simple, clever, love songs and the tunes were catchy. Dylan put out some amazing poetry that was hard to dismiss by the older generation at the time.

Much of the stuff coming out now is either cliche ridden drivel or profane and abusive. There are good lyrics in some of the alternative artists but it takes a lot of work to seek them out.