question for SLP05 owners:


Back when the SLP05 first came out, the (separate)  power supply was designed so that the actual preamp part of the SLP 05could sit on top of the power supply.  I was wondering if any owner/operators actually went that route, as I am thinking of re-configuring my listening room so that I can use shorter speaker cables, and placing the preamp on its power supply might make that transition easier.  The reason I am asking, however, is that I have noted that the power supply gets really hot after a couple of hours or so of listening, and I am not feeling real great about having the preamp right on top of it.  Therefore I was just wondering what the experiences of others has been.

immatthewj

You might want to call and ask Cary Audio directly what has been learned since the publishing of the last operating manual version. Ask the warranty-repair decision maker person there these days - and not a general sales person. I've had to deal with other components where the operators manuals needed clarification, updating.

What does #8 really mean below and is "stacking" acceptable or not.   

SLP-05 Cary Owners Manual, Page 2, reads: 

7. HEAT: Position the unit away from heat sources such as radiators, heat registers, stoves, or other units (including amplifiers) that produce heat.

8. VENTILATION: Slots and openings in the cabinet create ventilation to protect the component from overheating. These openings on the top and bottom panels must remain unobstructed. Allow at least 6 inches (16cm) of clearance above the unit and an opening behind the unit for airflow. Do not place the unit on a bed, sofa, rug, built-in bookcase, or rack without adequate ventilation.

https://www.caryaudio.com/wp-content/uploads/2021/01/SLP-05_manual.pdf

 

Thanks @decooney . I would have to email them, because I don’t think they talk to people on the phone anymore unless they want to buy something. The last time I emailed them about something, they were in no hurry to get back to me, but I guess that is what I should do.

As far as stacking, my preowned SLP05 was manufactured back when they were putting those indentations in the top panel of the power supply for the preamp feet to rest its feet in. But I was sort of under the impression that they were no longer building them that way.

I did, just now, consult the owner’s manual Cary provided with my preowned unit, and, as you pointed out, mine says the identical thing under the heading of "IMPORTANT SAFETY INSTRUCTIONS."

But then on page 15 under "BASIC OPERATION" it says "You may wish to stack the preamplifier on top of the matching power supply."  Then it goes on to say that either/or is okay. You are right--I should email them and express my concerns about stacking a component on something that gets as hot as that power supply gets. Either that or just not do it. I am thinking more & more of doing option 2.

If it were me and you see any type of ventilation holes under each of your units, maybe consider ways of ensuring sufficient air gets in.

Yes, we’ve both seen photos SLP-05/Power supply stacked, and I just checked a few reviewers that had them on display not stacked closer together. Maybe you can gap them some if you must stack. Same as some rack mount computer blade systems in racks within big Colo data center facilities. Moving Air is your friend if you want equipment to last.

If you do decide to stack, maybe you could do something like this for each, some kind of risers underneath each one, then stack, sort of like this. Can’t find a good photo but you get the idea. Stuff inside these units melts ages, cracks, over time from heat, this we know.

 

 

I appreciate your input, @decooney . I am starting to think that I don’t like the idea of something that gets warm sitting right on top of something that gets hot. When I say hot, I do not mean hot enough to burn flesh, but hot enough to make the palm of my hand feel a bit uncomfortable, and for someone who is not particularly sensitive that way, I guess that’s getting pretty warm. I need to remember to put a thermometer on top of it once to see what it actually reads. It must be those two big caps, huh? I cannot imagine that the 5AR4 is what makes it get that hot.

Anyway, I can find a way to reconfigure without stacking, but thanks again for taking the time to offer input and post the pics.

No worries @immatthewj I was typing this as I rotated my tube monoblock amps out, inserting and warming up my other Class A 50w solid state amp on/off past few days.  That SS class A gets to about 45-47C on the heat sinks as biased, and ensuring I have nothing above it or near it. Above it sits my Cary SLP-98L preamp, I keep the power supply away and sufficient air above it to breath in a similar manner. I use to stack some other dual mono HT SS amps I had years ago, not any more. Burned out one of them on the top of the stack, learned a lesson.   

As for heat, you might compare with others with SLP-05s and see if anyone has used a Infrared Thermometer Laser Temperature Gun and checked temps at all across different surfaces, tubes, etc.  

Are you running a different set of tubes, rectifiers, in it now then compared to the past and do you suspect more heat after trying different tubes - or anything like that?