Needing DAC Advice


My main, current system is a Schiit Urd through a Benchmark DAC3 B through a Schiit Freya+ (running in passive mode exclusively - I haven't even tried the tube output), to Pass Labs X150's to Martin Logan SL3's (and a couple of rythmik subs).

When I 'listen' to music, I listen to CD's or vinyl. I don't stream - too many places for signal compromise in the streaming chain for my tastes and, more importantly, I'm vehemently opposed to paying a provider who profits by paying artists virtually nothing for their content. When I can, I buy physical media directly from the artists I want to hear. 

A brief description of my pathway to here: the best-sounding system (for me) I've ever had was a modded Wadia 831 direct to a Pass Lab amp to ML's. (I'm a less is more adherent). I replaced the Wadia, as it was getting long in the tooth and I was worried about service, with an Oppo BDP105, then a modded 105D, again, directly driving the amps. Decent, but not the magic of the Wadia.

Which brings me to today - a transport and DAC. After much research, I went with the URD (because of the transport) through the Benchmark .I added the Freya+ in case I want to add vinyl to this system and the fact that the Freya is a 3-in-1 preamp. (I've got another, tube-based system for vinyl).

And here's the issue. The system is not a terribly musical-sounding set up. It 'sounds' very good: great detail, fast, big soundstage, blah, blah, blah...All those adjectives we regularly throw around. It's very 'there'! Sounds better than with the Oppo. But it is not...engaging? No soul?

I'm thinking it's the DAC. Maybe I'm just might not be a fan of Sabre or DS in general. Maybe I need try an R2R DAC. So, I started looking: Border Patrol, Denefripes, Mojo Audio, MHDT Orchid, HoloAudio, Lab 12, or even the Schiit Yggy.. Some of these add tubes which I'm not sure I want to do unless they can be bypassed (much as I love tubes, I'm not sure a DAC is the right place to use them.) Finally, before I go down the DAC rabbit hole, I will give the Freya tube output some serious listening, just in case tubes are the missing link. Otherwise, my questions are do you think that R2R is directionally correct and, if so, what suggestions/recommendations might you have? Thanks and I apologize for the length but I'm well aware that more detail I can provide upfront, the more useful your responses are likely to be.

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@yage I won't be changing my speakers. I like the sound of the SL3's. They've been rebuilt and they agree favorably with my Pass amps.

@big_greg I looked hard at Jays transport before buying the Urd. I convinced myself I wouldn't like the top loader but I'm re-thinking that. Also thought about the Pro-ject CD Box Rs2T but I don't have the real estate to accommodate the lid.

@soix the LTA Aero is now on my radar.

@sls883 I  tried the transport/dac with my primaluna before I got the Freya. it just can't drive the electrostatics very well. Just not enough horsepower to make those speakers work. My 105 into the primaluna driving L100's in my studio (near field) on the other hand, is very enjoyable.

@yyzsantabarbara If I crank the system pretty hard, say +90db, it sounds pretty darn good - doesn't seem to get louder just more open, more detail, and fuller. At wife-safe volumes it's rather meh. Interesting insight on the Mjolnir.

@fthompson251 I thought about picking up an Ares at one point  just to see if this was the direction I wanted to go.

@oddiofyl I don't think the Freya is the weak link here. From all measures and reviews, in passive mode it really is only volume control and input selector. 

I spent the afternoon reading @mitch2 excellent 6 dac test thread. I was already leaning toward Mojo Audio from my own research but a few other possibilities came out of that very thorough and insightful read. I think I listen for the same things as mitch2.

For reference, I run balanced interconnects, Signal cable silver resolution dac to pre to amps. I have some Cardas and Mogami on the way to try. 

OP audio mirror dac  has amazing reviews, Vlad the company owner has discount during holiday. He price $3500 maybe he can still sell it with this price.You don’t see them used. Owners are happy.

The DAC is not the weak link…. You are quick to spend $3 k plus on a DAC when you already have a good one. Demo a really good preamp in home and you will see what I’m talking about. 

TMR has some great preamps that you can build a great system around for the same money you are willing to spend on a DAC.