Digital isolation between Ethernet hub and streamer


This very inexpensive little box  connects between you ethernet hub and the streamer  it truly works and not expensive, check it out

https://stackaudio.co.uk/smoothlan/?v=0b3b97fa6688

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@audphile1

Unpacking your username, I see you love AUD. So do I, but I just can't get enough!

Do I understand correctly that you have a WiFi mesh router about 1 metre from your system?  And you claim it produces near zero RFI and EMI?

Surely the whole reason for having a mesh router is to blast the area with G-Hz WiFi signals?

When my partner moved her business into 'legacy' premises, wiring was going to be an issue so we (?) decided to go wireless for almost everything, including Voice over Internet Protocol (VoIP) phones.  In the end, we needed two mesh routers to boost the WiFi coverage.  These mesh routers get their packets via Ethernet cables.  They also get their power over these same Ethernet cables, injected as it happens though little wall warts which no doubt have switched mode power supplies.

Always suspicious the phones might not be working properly, she would often dial her business from her VoIP phones, not realising the VoIP system was smart enough not to route the call externally!  But then, a single unanswered call could cost her AUD 10k

No @richardbrand you misunderstood me. The EERO mesh node produces a good amount of EMI and RFI. The location where it is parked prevents it from interfering with my components and cables. I use an EMF meter to position components in such way that the EMI is minimal or nonexistent around and between the components and cables in my system to the best of my ability working with what I have. 
You hold a lot of knowledge and experience. But see, the way you come across is I’m beginning to build a perception when I read your posts that you think that everyone here is a moron. You need to rethink this approach. Most of us here have been at it for quite some time. And our systems are assembled based on research, knowledge and experience we accumulated over the years. Hope this helps clear at least some of the misconception you arrived with.

@audphile1 

Thanks for clearing that up for me!  You did originally post 'near zero' but now it is a 'good amount'.

My partner really believes there are four types of matter: electrons, protons, neutrons and morons.

By and large, we 'audiophiles' are a pretty gullible lot!  For fifty years we have been fed that digital sucks. Most audiophiles stick with two channels, 25 years after multi-channel came out. Then we discover that for two decades almost all records have been mastered digitally!  And those same record-loving folk now laud streaming, which is digital, even if done badly.

I wish contributors would back up claims of clear audible differences with a bit more evidence.  How hard is it to get somebody to switch a power cord while recording what they have switched and whether you think the sound is better, worse or the same?

I tried measuring the effect of lifting my dustcover and surprised myself with the lack of attenuation of pink noise, compared with white noise.  There could be a sensible debate there

What I said originally was

near zero EMI and RFI pollution from it due to its proximity to the rest of my gear.

meaning it does not pollute my system. On its own it produces a good amount. I have to chew this for you?

Then you stated this

I tried measuring the effect of lifting my dustcover and surprised myself with the lack of attenuation of pink noise, compared with white noise

Well I have been measuring the effects of your removing your dust cover and my findings are there is definitely no attenuation of noise. My recommendation is - keep your dust cover on. Especially on your keyboard.

Audioman58 - thank you for your post. I have been streaming my music for over 8 years and I am amazed at the quality level I have already achieved in my two major stereo systems in my home.  I stumbled on a major audio upgrade by converting my incoming signal from Spectrum internet (average speed 200 Megbits per second over copper to my router) to fiber optics into anew router -  (at 550 Megbits per second ) . The audio quality improvement shocked me. More separation, lower noise floor, better soundstage, cleaner horns, etc. I feed my streamer/ dac via Ethernet cable. I just ordered the Smoothlan network filter and will insert it into my main stereo system in front of my LUMIN T2. I simplified my streamer/DAC journey by going with LUMIN - I run a T2 in my main system. I will happily report back as to if I hear improvements inthis system. Please note my LUMIN T 2 feeds my Krell 300i integrated amp which feed my Peter Gunned Maggie 1.6 customer speakers, with The Swarm sub woofers handling the bottom end. I think my system will be able to resolve any improvements that come from a better/cleaner incoming signal.