Subs?

I just added 2 Rel S510 to my setup and I wish I had done it before. Everything is playing more in coherent and the soundstage is more 3D and instrumental. Voices are smooth and realistic, I’m very pleased with how they sound.

Subwoofers are still very difficult to integrate in a true HEA system. HT fans are less about seamless integration but praise the sound of jet engines/explosions and even dinosaurs walking through a jungle, not music to my ears! Dealers/sellers will almost always advocate the need for subs, now they push for two subwoofers. Why? Because it’s another component to sell. The budget Audiophile will put more importance on a sub then an amplifier or source component. The top level Audiophile might have FOMO over the lowest octave which could take his system a level or 2 backwards, even with near perfect integration its likely a sideways move.

How many companies build a subwoofer that you can setup in an array where each individual sub is tuned different.

Subwoofers are still very difficult to integrate in a true HEA system. HT fans are less about seamless integration but praise the sound of jet engines/explosions and even dinosaurs walking through a jungle, not music to my ears! Dealers/sellers will almost always advocate the need for subs, now they push for two subwoofers, Why? Because it’s another component to sell. The budget Audiophile will put more importance on a sub then an amplifier or source component. The top level Audiophile might have FOMO over the lowest octave which could take his system a level or 2 backwards, even with near perfect integration its likely a sideways move.

@dayglow  There’s virtually nothing here I agree with.  Subwoofers are not that hard to integrate if you have any idea what you’re doing, and if you read Todd Welti’s research who’s a foremost authority on subwoofers he shows with measurements why 2, 3, or 4 subs are significantly better than one.  And that last octave is very worth being concerned with because as others have mentioned here having that can vastly improve imaging and 3D soundstage — it’s not just about bass with subs. 

Most audiophiles don’t us a sub because they are hard to integrate into a system where it adds to the sound without highlighting itself.  subs are about bass, how are  supposed to render the lowest octave?