System advice


I’m still a newbie to audio world, but a couple years ago I got Monitor Audio Platinum PL II speakers with XLO Signature cables (good old stuff), Arcam Alpha 9 amp & preamp and Naim CD5 XS with FlatCap XS. Sound was great for me - juicy, involving, deep. But then I was talked into having the whole stack from Naim. I replaced Arcam amp/preamp with Naim NAC XS 152 & Naim NAP 155 XS. I was told it will be an upgrade from Arcam and that having full stack from Naim will provide great synergy.

The problem is.. I almost stopped listening to the music right after this change. There’s something unpleasant in the sound. There’s a lot of details, good resolution but... I don’t feel amused anymore.

Recently I understood that there is no synergy between speakers/cables and amp/preamp. It’s like some sweetness, warm is missing in this sound..

But now I have no idea in what direction I should go. Any advice for a noobie?

 

gabriel123

UPDATE!

I had today a listening session at audio shop. I took my friend with me to compare the feelings. I had my piece of the equipment - Monitor Audio Platinum PL II speakers and XLO Signature 2 cables. We tried them against Ayon Crossfire III (SET) and Octave v80 (push pull). Ayon sounded surprisingly weak, bright and I didn’t like it at all. It was much better with Octave. But after some time we both found out that there is still something unpleasant with the sound that makes you tired of listening - a metallic glow. That was the moment where I unfortunately realized that my problem is my speakers...

We took Dynaudio Contour 20i and connected those speakers to Octave v80 SE and momentarily the metallic glow disappeared. There was more music, more fun, music was quite enjoyable. My friend was very satisfied. I was too for a moment, but... to be honest, I wasn’t delighted. My Monitor Audio speakers apart from having this metallic glow, have very detailed, nicely contoured sound which I like or I got used to it. At the same time Dynaudio Contour 20i give lot of fun, but the sound is kind of cloudy. Does it make any sense?

Anyway, this took me to the conclusion that I probably should start with changing my speakers. Maybe new ones will fit well with my Naim/ Arcam set? There's higher model of Dynaudio - Confidence 20, but I'm not sure if it's good way for me.

 

If so, what would be your recommendations?

Upon reading some reviews of your speakers I can see why there could be an issue with glare or an over abundance of detail in the upper mids and treble and may be what you’re hearing.  You could try these Joseph Audio Pulsars (original version) that could be much better/more refined in that area but not lack for transparency like the Dynaudio speakers — best of both worlds of you will.  If you buy well and they don’t work out for some reason you should be able to sell them for little/no loss so not a lot of risk, but I’d bet on you keeping them.  Just one idea FWIW. 

https://www.ebay.com/itm/186915696094

@soix thanks! I'm just just starting reading about those speakers. I have to check the availability in Europe, because shipping from the US would cost me an arm and a leg :)

Btw. may I ask if you're a fan ot Joseph Audio Pulsar and if you agree with my feelings about Dynaudio? I'm just looking for confirmation that my feelings might be right...

 

I am a fan of JA speakers in general as they manage to sound very natural and musical while not sacrificing air/detail, and they also disappear and throw off a 3D soundstage better than most anything else I’ve heard.  I haven’t listened to Dynaudio speakers in too long of a time to say anything directly about how they sound now, but what I’ve read about them from reviews and owners would coincide with your impressions and is why I thought the Pulsars would be an improvement.  I also think ProAc is right up there with JA and are probably a lot easier to find/buy in Europe if you may need/want another alternative.  Hope that helps. 

@soix I've read today a lot of rave reviews about JP that make me want to buy them. 

Is there a huge difference between Pulsar 1 and Pulsar 2 Graphene? I wonder how much costs to upgrade from 1 to 2...

I'm also wondering if those speakers will be enough for my room - I sit almost 4 meters from speakers and the room is kinda big and open...