A not sarcastic question for the power conditioner/upgraded power cord folks


And I realize that there are those that don’t believe in either

Assuming you use a power conditioner and after market power cords, do you feel that the power cord from the power conditioner to the wall might be a limiting or even a negating factor to the performance of the after market power cords that run from the power conditioner to the gear?

The reason I ask is that I was about to embark upon some more experimentation with different power cords and where I plugged them into when I discovered that the aftermarket cords I had purchased before and some recent arrivals are actually a meter shorter than the ones that came with the gear. This doesn’t matter for the amp due to its location, but when I did my last power cord upgrade I ran my CDP and pre into a conditioner so the length for those didn’t matter either, but as I was doing the musical chairs with power cords thing today, I also was intending to run the CDP and pre straight into the wall on separate dedicated circuits, but I found out that I am a tad short on those two.

Which doesn’t preclude me from moving my dedicated circuit outlets up a couple of feet, and I suppose I probably will, but I was curious as to the opinions about the limitations of a power conditioners power cord.

immatthewj

@ghdprentice 

That is in line with the above article, and I believe that is @audphile1's philosophy as well. Are your 2 lines on the same phase? 

I really like that article- after most points he says "Again, use your ears to decide." 

I never thought of twisting the romex, I believe it is already, but a few more twists sure wouldn't hurt. 

And going to have to find some silver paste!

@kennymacc 👍

Digital sources poop noise back into the AC line. A good power conditioner makes sense as it not only cleans up the AC going to your components but also cleans up and reduces the noise going back into the AC line.
Once again the design of component power supplies and the conditioner matters here. In general though, amplifiers are usually better off when run direct without power conditioner while digital is plugged into the conditioner to mitigate noise going back into AC line.
I have two dedicated circuits - one for amp and one for digital. I never had good results with the amp run from the conditioner. All that’s needed is a very good power cord. My Bricasti M3 DAC also sounds best direct to wall. I haven’t tried my Aurender streamer with power conditioner but with its massive overbuilt power supply I doubt it will benefit. Just my experience.

  I was in this position and I experienced an improvement. I have a pair of 15 amp circuits that have Hubble duplex outlets. All my equipment uses upgraded 15 amp power cords. I installed a Richard Gray power conditioner that came with a very beefy factory cord. After it was up and running I purchased a 15/20 amp Pangea adapter and tried some of my other power cords and noticed a slight improvement. I then tried a Shunyata Venom HC power cable with very noticeable results. The Shunyata cable does not require the adapter. I could tell a greater difference changing that one cable than swapping cables from the conditioner to my component’s. Cheers , Mike B. 

 

@audphile1

Over the years, during the course of my experimentation with power conditioners and power cables, on several occasions, I tried plugging my amps directly into the wall outlets (with and without upgraded aftermarket audiophile wall outlets). Plugging amps directly into the wall outlet was conventional wisdom years ago, and some/many still abide by it. However, as stated, I found that I still preferred plugging my amplifiers into a high quality, non-power limiting power conditioners, such as my Audioquest Niagara 3000. I’m very happy that you’ve found a method which works best for you and your audio system. I’m also very happy to convey what works best for me. Happy listening.

So much of this depends on your equipment, electrical grid and sonic preferences...my amps only sound their best, to me and my friends,  plugged into the wall...but if I had different amps and/or lived 3 blocks away (which has a different power company), I might prefer them plugged into a conditioner...