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a 3 way design speaker with the ESS Heil type sound

I have tried Klipsch RF-7 lll, ADS 780,880, 1290 ll, 1590 ll, ESS 3 ways with HEIL, and Daedalus Speakers. I still own all of these. Is there a speaker with the bass slam and dynamics of Klipsch RF-7 lll, and the midrange and tweeter sound of ESS HEIL, that is as beautiful, efficient, and easy to drive as Daedalus Speakers??

I have VPI prime. AT 760 SLC mm, and Sumiko Blackbird HOMC. Phono preamp is Ayre P-5xe. I run balanced out. I also have a Graham Slee Accession.

I use my Line Magnetic LM-515 CD player with balanced outputs. I like the sound. Great bass and extension. No fatigue with tube buffer output.
I have a Marantz SACD 30n for streaming, and SACD use. The Marantz is definitely a weak link.
I have Simaudio 740P balance into Simaudio 760A.
kinda dry sounding. Thinking this magic unicorn speaker (if existed) would solve my problem.
or do I need a good tube preamp??

looking for advice

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decooney
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@tomic601 so the MTM w mid bass drivers of 7” or so with a sub makes sense…just my .02$….

 

That configuration is darn close to my own custom built setup:

  • Dual 8" Nomex mid-woofer/midrange
  • --Peerless Tymphany version
  • ESS AMT Great Heil
  • --updated AMT diaphragms
  • MTM configuration
  • 1200hz crossovers, custom
  • --isoberic chamber tested
  • 92.5 db sensitivity, 4ohm
  • Walnut enclosures, not baffle
  • Tune ported at rear
  • +Dual custom 12" Scanspeak stereo subwoofers

 

 

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arion
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Check out Arion Audio speakers. (disclosure, I am the designer/owner)

We design and manufacture our own AMT drivers. Our entire line is based on AMT drivers. All of our speakers are OB.

decooney
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@arion Check out Arion Audio speakers...

 

Certainly worthy of some links to pics. Wow, those are some serious AMTs!

Very interesting open-baffle designs. Others coming in April 2025 eh’. Very Cool.

https://arionaudio.com/speakers/

Way more than a 3-way, in a line array, huge AMT sound.  Holy cow. :) 

 

Three-Way, Five Driver Dipole Full Range Floor Standing Design

 

 

2-Ways, smaller

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asvjerry
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@larryi , the AMT 1B’s had a single driver on the face facet with a matched diameter passive on the back...

If the bass seemed out of phase, it really was the room.
I had an early version of an octave eq that came with a dinky but calibrated mic.

And the means to DSP the space with white noise that likely made the neighbors think our vacuum cleaner had been plugged into the wrong plug....

The issue with AMT drivers ’in general’, imho, is matching the response speed of the bass drivers to keep up. My approach is to have a ’mid/high’ 6.5" bass unit(s) and dump the low bass into a healthy sub or 4.....

Like the ’look’ of the Line 10’s over the Cinnamons’......the latter would be a tough sell to the sig other....

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asvjerry
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....and, at the starting $'s for the 10's, I could diy the entirety's concept.
I would cheat and do 4, since I've already have that in large Heils'.

My question would be what 6.5 raw mid would be this crowd's fav.?

Not too much 'overlap' at top & bottom....and 'nimble'....

It's/they have a hard act to follow.... ;)

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