Balanced vs RCA preamps


How important is it that your Pre-amp has both balanced and RCA capabilities? I’m shopping for another pre, most likely tube, and it seems to make sense with any future component that it offers both XLR and RCA. And to further complicate the search finding both these features plus remote limits the offerings for both tube and SS particularly tube.

 

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The short answer to your question is, it is not a good idea to base your decision on which preamp to buy solely on the basis of balanced outputs.  First of all, they do not exist for tube equipment, maybe there is a hybrid out there I am not aware of, but for all practical purposes anything with XLR connections is going to be solid state.

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@billstevenson , the Cary SLP05 is a tube preamp that features a truly balanced circuit, and I am sure that there are plenty of others.

 

Just because you have balanced input and out puts does not mean the unit is full balanced! A very large part of the pre amp market is not fully balanced. Even though they have the connections.

Just because you have balanced input and out puts does not mean the unit is full balanced! A very large part of the pre amp market is not fully balanced. Even though they have the connections.

True, @68pete , but I bet that almost every manufacturer that puts a piece of gear out with a truly balanced circuit comes out and says so in the owner's manual.  

First, as always, thanks to "atmasphere" for his input.  

I would add that there are a number of considerations to address when buying a preamplifier.  Connectivity being only one.  Your system arrangement and placement of components is another important part.  A good standard practice is to keep loudspeaker cables as short as practically possible. That leaves you with the interconnects.  Any well designed & engineered single-ended preamplifier with a low output impedance (~200 ohms) should be capable of driving long runs of interconnecting cable. Choosing an interconnect cable shouldn't be left to chance.

For several years I used 30' runs between my preamp and my mono block amps with no hum or any other issue.  My current arrangement in a new home is much different and my interconnects have stayed the same, but I just shortened them to about a meter in length. My mono block amps do not have balanced connectivity.  If they had I may have tried both single ended & balanced interconnects especially if the amps were truly of a balanced design.

I would encourage you to home demo any preamplifier that you are considering before you purchase.  Preamplifiers are a very important component in all things hi-fi. Afterall, it's all about the sound. 

Happy hunting 

The reason to use a balanced connection should be to eliminate ground loops and cable artifact. 

I'd argue that noise reduction is the primary benefit of truly balanced circuits, which can offer high CMMR.

A proper (AES48) balanced connection will do that. Its worth noting that a lot of 'high end audio' balanced equipment does not support AES48 even though it's balanced.

Balanced equipment that isn't AES compliant isn't necessarily "improper," it's just different. For example, the balanced ARC gear isn't AES compliant, yet using the balanced connections yields improvement that you can measure and hear.