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The Audio Science Review (ASR) approach to reviewing wines.

Imagine doing a wine review as follows - samples of wines are assessed by a reviewer who measures multiple variables including light transmission, specific gravity, residual sugar, salinity, boiling point etc.  These tests are repeated while playing test tones through the samples at different frequencies.

The results are compiled and the winner selected based on those measurements and the reviewer concludes that the other wines can't possibly be as good based on their measured results.  

At no point does the reviewer assess the bouquet of the wine nor taste it.  He relies on the science of measured results and not the decidedly unscientific subjective experience of smell and taste.

That is the ASR approach to audio - drinking Kool Aid, not wine.

toronto416
audition__audio
1,698 posts
 

Our audio group routinely does simple double blind tests and I can tell you it is not a relaxing experience. I am convinced that people listen very differently under testing conditions than they do normally. 

But the real issue is why should you even care? After decades of 2 channel listening, I no longer doubt my senses. To me this is ridiculous argument that will yield nothing. A discussion which has been going on for decades, I just dont remember there ever existing a worse ambassador for the measurement side than Amir.

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markalarsen
730 posts
 

ASR = junk science 

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mdalton
631 posts
 

@kerrybh 

I have similar views.  Product types for which I have a healthy amount of skepticism include power conditioning, high-cost streamers, and network switches (omg!).  Manufacturer claims regarding their low noise levels, jitter immunity, etc. could be easily documented, but in virtually every case they don’t.  Hmmmm….

texbychoice
163 posts
 

@devinplombier 

Now that’s a load of unsubstantiated BS - heavy on innuendo and MIA on facts.

All facts. Read many of the threads on ASR.  Name calling and personal attacks routine behavior.  Your comments follow the ASR model.

Amir jumped a thread here and went on and on and on posting numerous charts, graphs, and long verbiage. Amir himself mentioned the search algorithm.  Fact.

There is a video of Amir asking AP engineer to make the analyzer more "fool proof".  Fact.

Amir himself documents his personal system and talks about cost.  Fact.

Transparency about Amir's other business comes up in defense of his claimed absolute and unquestionable impartiality.  Fact.

Mostly you sound angry and butthurt.

You are hostile and butthurt by facts, not I.

It’s almost as if Amir had disparaged one of your products or something

I make no products of any kind.  You reveal yet another ASR minion tactic of leaping to a ridiculous assumption.

 

devinplombier
925 posts
 

Hahaha links to all these facts please?

Amir jumped a thread here and went on and on and on posting numerous charts, graphs, and long verbiage. Amir himself mentioned the search algorithm.  Fact.

There is a video of Amir asking AP engineer to make the analyzer more "fool proof".  Fact.

Amir himself documents his personal system and talks about cost.  Fact.

Transparency about Amir's other business comes up in defense of his claimed absolute and unquestionable impartiality.  Fact.

 

 

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