The $27,900 disappointment? Wilson Audio Watt Puppy 8 issues.


GR Research gave a breakdown of these & I was surprised..

Owner looking to make them sound better.

https://youtu.be/Tma9jFZ3-3k

 

fertguy

Many of you are showing a fundamental misunderstanding of how most amps react to low impedance speakers. Low impedance is never a good thing.

Low impedance is neither a good nor a bad thing. It is what it is. When low impedance is present, appropriate amplification is required. This is not optional, the right amps must be chosen and I don’t disagree that many folks don’t, either because they underestimate or simply ignore their speakers’ needs, and then they’ll go and bad-mouth glorious speakers just because they sounded terrible in their inadequate system.

@audition__audio I think we are on the same page wrt the need for quality speakers to be paired with quality amplifiers, but I would argue that many amazing sounding large floorstanders out there do have unforgiving impedance curves, so to me at least, high current amps are a must-have.

Besides, very few speakers, including higher-efficiency ones, fail to benefit from an abundance of current, even when it’s a nice-to-have and not a must-have.

This is not to say that a person can’t put together a system that sounds fantastic in their room out of a single-digit-watt amp driving a single full-range coaxial driver.

It is all a matter of taste in the end.

 

 

Yes I agree with you. There seems to be some commonality between many of the very expensive floor standers in not only impedance but also in the material used to make the drivers. I am considering getting  250W transformer coupled tube monos to explore the possibility that I can work around some of the limiting factors with hard to drive speakers and tubes. Beating the speakers into submission with lots of tube power. I would love to explore S.S., but the only amps of this type I can listen to are all over $ 50K, except perhaps for the Trilogy amps. 

Thanks for discussing and not taking a more aggressive approach. Notice I have never said Wilson made bad speakers.

 

@audition__audio 

I was not familiar with Trilogy so I looked up the brand. Really beautiful amps. However, nothing in the published specs suggest they would excel at driving difficult loads. 

Have you looked at Accuphase? Some of their amps are stable below 1 ohm, and they have a sound that can be described as warm. Their A300 monoblocks are rated 125W into 8 ohms, 250W into 4 ohms, 500W into 2 ohms, and 1000W into 1 ohm. That's really as good as it gets. They're also beautiful and their build quality is gorgeous.

I am not a fan of Wilson speakers honestly.

1)Does anyone here think Wilson isnt aware of these measurements?

2) Lets assume we all agree that they are. 

IMO if 1 and 2 are true, then its intentional, and perhaps for reasons we’ll never be privy to. But the reason could be that flattening the curve for the sake of proper engineering may completely ruin the sound. 

My guess would be that the drop to almost 2 ohm at approx. 25 hz and 85 hz for all those Wilson speakers listed above will pull more current from the amp(s) and increase the bass presence.