Rumble - turntable or background noise DG LP


Context: Not really audiophile guy. Set up: AXR 100, Debut Carbon w/Ortofon Blue, KEF LS 50, BW ASW 8 Sub. I am a subscriber to LA Phil so I know what things should sound like. 

I notice a fair amount of what I would call background noise and sub flutter or pulsing when I play Dvorak New World - Berliner/Kubelik and Beethoven 6 Wiener/Bohm. Both are new DG and "remastered". The sound otherwise is very good but the background noise is annoying. When I play C Botti Vol 1 on Blue Note, or one of the 45 RPM  like Brubek or D. Krall they are really quiet. You have to want to find the noise. I have double checked the stylus for proper set up. 1.8 on the nose by measurement. Any idea on why the DG's would be so much worse? I have compared the DG vinyl with the same DG CD's and well, for reasons the defy explanation, I like the sound of the vinyl much better except for the background noise.

Thanks

sbsail9

dwette -

The Pastoral is, the Dvroak is an earlier version. As of now it is a mystery. I played the first Pastoral (the one with the bump in the intro) and it sounds like the replacement, same rumbly sounds in places. Again,  I get very little surface noise sound from most - and with the high end (45 RPM) or other 180g recordings it is hard to hear if present at all. At this point I think I will re-jigger the TT placement just as I probably need to anyway and move on. If I had a $5K TT and $30K electronics and speakers it would be different. Life is too short to spend time chasing this. I'll just wait for Dudamel to do his next Mahler. The 7th was mind blowing!

 

 

@sbsail9 The Original Source series Pastoral sounds just fine on my system. Maybe what you need is better turntable isolation. That can make a very significant  difference and solve a lot of problems with vinyl playback.

Thank you all for your info. I am going to reach out to DG. I'll let you know if they have any comments.

The main bearings in low priced turntables often require compromise to meet a price point as well as everything else about them.  What you might interpret as groove roar is actually rumble from the poorly machined bearings.  As you go up the price ladder manufacture's pay more attention to these things and you will find that the noise floor in higher priced decks drop to imperceptible levels which at comfortable volume levels rivals that of digital formats.  Say if you suddenly jump from a Rega Planar 3 to a Planar 8 the difference is dramatic!