dwette -
The Pastoral is, the Dvroak is an earlier version. As of now it is a mystery. I played the first Pastoral (the one with the bump in the intro) and it sounds like the replacement, same rumbly sounds in places. Again, I get very little surface noise sound from most - and with the high end (45 RPM) or other 180g recordings it is hard to hear if present at all. At this point I think I will re-jigger the TT placement just as I probably need to anyway and move on. If I had a $5K TT and $30K electronics and speakers it would be different. Life is too short to spend time chasing this. I'll just wait for Dudamel to do his next Mahler. The 7th was mind blowing!