I need help - Better DAC or NEW CD player?


I am in the middle of purchasing some components for my new system, unfortunately, reading posts on a rainy night on Audigon only makes my "upgradeatitis" syndrom more acute.

The problem is that some time ago, I bought a squeezebox Duet, to use as transport for lossless files. The idea obviously was to get a good DAC to go along with it.

The one I was almost set on was the Dacmagic, which gets very good reviews here and almost everywhere you look. But, on the other hand, I am willing to spend a little more......Now, the thing is my current CD player is a Rotel RCD 1072, and was wondering whether this Dacmagic would give me any improvements if I use the rotel as a transport for it.

Or, I could get for example a Wyred DAC or a Benchmark DAC1 and use the Rotel for transport, but I dont know the limits of the Rotel as transport alone, I dont want to spend 600 more bucks on a better DAC to be fed with 2 "not so good" transports (the Duet and the Rotel).

So I am kinda stuck!! On the other hand I am contemplating getting the Dacmagic to use only for the Duet, and getting a new better CD player altogether, which puts me into another doubt, I dont know if the little money I can for the rotel + lets say 1000 more will really give me any improvements in the system if I purchase a whole new CD player since the Rotel is said to be very capable.

FWIW my amp will be a W4S STI500 and speakers are B&W 803D.

Let me know what you think about this and your suggestions on what you would do.... thanks in advance for all your help!
demianm
Are you in a position to go listen to the 840 and compare it to other CDPs or DACs? It didn't sound "thin" to me.
Knownothing,

Did you hear the 840C? I dont know if it is really thin, I just read that from some other review but also doubt it sounds "thin" considering the great reviews for it.

I could listen to it, but the dealers where I´ve seen it do not have a good listening room to really be able to notice any difference, it´s like listening to it at bestbuy, no good at all. I´d rather jump into the pool and listen to it at home.....
Yes, I have heard it. It is very good at its price point. For comparison, most cheaper Cambridge players have a forward sonic balance with fairly flat frequency curve, meaning that bass and treble are not attenuated in favor of mid range tones, as some other manufacturers of budget players prefer to do (NAD comes to mind here). The other Cambridges tend to put their empahsis on resolution and timing over soundstage width and depth - so you get musical details and tunefulness, but not necessarily the best "hiFi" effects. The DacMagic is at the very musical end of these characters, having essentially the DACs and upsampling electronics from the CA 740C, which is one model and several hundred bucks down from the 840C.

For comparison with the player you are familiar with, I find the Rotel sound to be fairly accurate and flat in frequency resoponse, but somewhat sterile or dry (lifeless is probably too strong a term) overall in comparison to say, the Cambridge 640C, the Dac Magic or 740C.

The 840C on the other hand to me sounds warmer and more liquid through the mid range than its littler siblings. It keeps the tunefullness and resolution, but wraps it in a tropical breeze, and does a better job of building a believable soundstage. Soundstage size is still not top o0f class for the Cambridge compared to other players in its price range, but the other things it does well more than compensate in my mind.

The reason for the leap in capability for the 840 over its sibilings probably results from the fact that it uses a completely different set of DACs and I believe different algorithms for upsampling among other upgrades. In any case, your amp has balanced inputs, and if you fit the 840C with good balnaced ICs and a capable and compatible power cord like the Analysis Plus Power Oval 2 or Shunyata Diamondback Platinum or better, you can maximize the positive traits (including expanded soundstage) for both CD playback and use of the 840 as a stand alone DAC serving other sources. I think you would enjoy it.
I heard the 840c on ARC pre-amp and Rogue poweramp running PSB Synchrony speakers. The results were top notch, one of the best I have heard.

I've heard DCS and other high end units on other systems. The sound in each case was different but top notch still. The system the player reides in, particularly amp, speakers and room obviously are major factors in determining the resulting sound. My conclusion was I could live easily with teh Cambridge in the right system for me with no reservations if needed. I would not look at the way more expensive units without some kind of direct a/b comparison possible which I have not heard.
Knownothing,

Which other CD player except the Raysonic would you recommend at this price point ($1000)?

Does anyone happen to know if it is possible to use the 840C with both outputs (unbalanced and balanced) wired to the amp? I would like to be able to stuff my tube buffer in between the amp and CD/DAC to be able to improve the sound of MP3 playback, but use the balanced output for regular CD playing.