Vinyl Care


I just got a new turntable and cartridge after not having one for years.

I need a recommendation for a relatively inexpensive record cleaner.

I really never took proper care of my records,and would like some basic advice on how to keep them clean on a regular basis.

I also need some guidance on care and cleaning of my cartridge and stylus.My currant cartridge is a Rega exact.

Please know that I don't have a big collection of valuable records,just a bunch of old rock recordings amassed over the past 50 years.

I have started buying some new records,but only select prized albums that I have lost or have been worn out.

Thanks.

twangy57

First, no fluids touch my records. Other than desperate measures, no liquid, Keep it simple. Used for every record, every time I use an Audio Technica Sonic Broom (AT-6012). It’s been around for years. While most cleaners of this type push dirt around the record, this actually picks it up. It picks up dust going one direction and releases it going the opposite. I have a zero-stat but seldom use it as we have few problems with static.

I’ve been in the audio and record business for decades. My friends say I own more speakers that some women have shoes. While that’s not completely true I do have a collection. Records potentially usually have one or two problems: scratches and dirt. Scratches can’t be fixed. Live with it or find another copy. Dirt often can be lifted. It may take time and patience and multiple cleanings. I use a vacuum device found on ebay (Vinyl Vac 33 for $29.97) and an old rim drive turntable w a 3lb platter as a workstation. It uses my vacuum cleaners suction, so I’m not spending money on some whimpey vacuum built into a cute little box that spins my record.  Take the time to understand where the problem areas are and focus your work on those areas. I’ve cleaned disastrous recordings to near perfect condition many times.

Again, skip the fluids. I’ve never found a fluid that in some way altered the sound. Some leave more noise than before I started. Others may seem like vinyl noise is reduced but so are subtle dynamics and sound stage. I sold LAST in my store for years, but over time regretted using it. Sure, those records have held their own, but the before mention changes are permanent.

If kept clean, none of these problems should occur. I’m talking about fixing problems. Mostly 2nd hand but sometimes new records had issues too. Brand new records in modern times seldom have issues. Good and bad are the 180-gram reproductions of older records. At first, I thought these were awesome, and in some cases, you’d never find the original. Often, these are overproduced lifeless copies of something that once sounded real. But that’s another story.

Tonearm / cartridge combination will determine record wear (which comes back to noise and sound quality). And why someone would spend serious money on a turntable with no dustcover is beyond me. I bought a collection of Microacoutics cartridges (just to have backup) and have been running the same 382 for more than 25 years at 1.25 grams. 100’s and 100’s of hours of use and neither it nor the records show any signs of wear. Some of my favorite demo discs used in the 80’s still demo very well and have been played more time than anyone would care to know.

@zobel 

have been running the same 382 for more than 25 years at 1.25 grams

I think the Micro Acoustics 382 is a moving magnet cartridge, I suspect with removable stylus.  How many playing hours do you estimate you get from one stylus, and what is its tip profile?  Just interested ...

@richardbrand Roger Russell called it "electret" or piezo with a beryllium cantilever and fine line stylus.

"I think the Micro Acoustics 382 is a moving magnet cartridge, I suspect with removable stylus.  How many playing hours do you estimate you get from one stylus, and what is its tip profile?  Just interested ..."

 

@faustuss

Yes, following up on your lead I discovered that the 382 uses the piezo electrostatic effect with a passive network to make it electrically like a moving magnet system.  Another 40-year-old design!  The stylus shape is patented but similar to line contact designs.

This thread is an excellent case study of what is good and bad about the internet and forums like this one.  As it meanders along the impetus has been perpetuated by a series of excellent questions.  There is a lot of good information, but unfortunately along with it there is a lot of conflicting information that is cause for confusion.  My purpose in adding this note is to try and stabilize the course and minimize the confusion.  I am not the world's foremost authority of vinyl care, Neil Antin is.  Neil Anitin has contributed here and once again I urge anyone who is interested in this subject to download his book.  It is free.  Advice that you might find in this thread that conflicts with his should be considered very carefully.  Ask for the science and the statistical evidence to support any conclusions, procedures or recommendations that seem contrary to the known data as outlined in his writings.  This is an evolving topic, but there is sound science available to support taking reasonable steps to care for your records.  Do no let wild imagination and anecdotal evidence deflect you from what to do.  Do not worry about things that cannot occur such as diamond tracing vinyl producing electrostatic energy.  And heaven forbid you should refrain from washing your dirty records following carefully developed and tested procedures because of the longstanding prejudice of one or two well meaning, but otherwise collectors without documented science to support their conclusions.  There is more than one way to clean a dirty record, but follow the proven scientific methods.