@waldenpond , Small world ! My fathers memorial plaque is next to the Crows Nest Restaurant. There are about 6-7 plaques that helped fund the seating area with the nautical star. If you look over at the Pink house on the point , I’ve stayed in the gray and yellow houses next to it. I have relatives that have a house backed into the upper harbor. To some SC is seen as gritty and raw, but to me it’s alive and overflowing with some of the best people and best times I’ve ever had. My dads ashes went in at Oneils one foggy morning 20 plus years ago and I’ll be rolling with the Orcas in the Canyon. And I do “ Pack my Trash “ 😎 Mike.
Footers under new speakers
Hi , I’m seeking advice regarding footers and/or platforms under my speakers. I purchased Tekton Double Impact’s and have heavy shag carpet and padding over a cement slab floor. House is 35 years old, cement is thick and well cured. I’m from that old mindset of spikes into cement and I am looking for an improvement. I’ve looked online at Gaia footers and Herbie's Studded Giant Gliders. I emailed Herbie’s and specifically inquired about the studded gliders alone on the DI’s over carpet. I asked about stability and was told the speakers were “ heavy enough “. Unfortunately I just set up the DI’s temporarily to get a little break in time. They are without any footers upright on my carpet. At 115 lbs the speaker does about zero to compress the carpet. I understand weight Vs footprint is abysmal but they won’t even stand straight. I’ll probably put the spikes on for a bit until I formulate a plan. But my first concern is that Herbie’s gliders alone are not enough and due to the minimum cost of the speakers I am struggling with purchasing Gaia’s footers and footer spikes. The seismic stands look exceptional, but I’m trying to be frugal. So I’m looking for suggestions like, gliders or dots with or without spikes on wood / stone plinths spiked to the floor. My goal is to try some sort decoupling (Gliders / Springs / Dots) AND eliminate the need of having to rely on the carpet being compressed. And yes I have cheap speakers and seek a cheap solution, so I get that limitation. Unfortunately I can’t afford Tannoy’s or Fynes to compliment my 180 watt tube mono blocs for at least a year. Cheers , Mike B.
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My tower speakers weigh 85lbs each. This sounds funny, but give it a try, it worked for me. I have carpet on a cement slab as well. The funny is I tried spiked plastic furniture grips that have adhesive I got at Walmart cheap. They have no problem holding the weight with one square on each corner. I move the speakers when needed for cleaning with furniture sliders under the spikes. Works slick. You could easily double them up for heavier speakers. The spikes isolate from the floor, yet stable. I would not have used this cheap solution if it had not improved the sound or were not stable. Or, you can spend hundreds of dollars not knowing just how good this works. :) |
@pcrhkr , Thanks this is interesting. If you scroll back a bit and look at @wswright20’s post he mentions doing the same. Also check out his gear page and see he’s essentially doing the same with 285 lb speakers. I’ll probably try that this week with my spikes ( if they don’t pierce through ) and with the raw cabinets. When my Townsends arrive in a week or two I’ll try them. Then I’ll probably try the Townsends with the furniture gliders again as wswright20 has done. Cheers , Mike B. |
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As I’ve indicated before… I tried and abandoned the Townsend Isolation Bars for my speakers.
The way I see it , we audiophiles are constantly looking for the next upgrade and more “ insight” into the recording.
And the other thing is that once you become an audiophile one of the things you often get a new perspective on is bass: nobody wants to go back to the dreaded “one note bass” that’s so many of us grew up thinking was awesome in crappy systems. And so audiophiles chase and chase ever tighter bass, and wanting the speaker to disappear including in the bass region as much as possible. I also went that way…at one point evening out the bass response in my room using dual subwoofers, a great crossover and room DSP. I abandoned that because I found my speakers more pleasing without it.
And then I tried tons of different footers and materials underneath my speakers including the Townshend product.
And yes, I got more of a disappearing act from the speakers, tighter and more holographic bass.
But in the chase for ever more holographic tight bass, I found I lost with me is highly valuable: a sense of density, punch and salinity to the sound.
The more I made my speaker speakers sound “ invisible” the more they reminded me of an electrostatics, which I abandoned years ago because I found the sound a bit too ghostly.
That’s why I ended up trying to find a halfway point between tightening up the bass and improving the sound of the speakers in my room, while not losing that density and punch. Which for me was a combination of materials which included is acoustic Gaias and a custom made marble bass, as well as carpet spikes. Carefully dialled in that combination got me what I want.
But of course, I still totally understand. Peoples enthusiasm for the Townsend products (I still use their pods underneath my turntable).
And if somebody were looking to improve base response and have their speakers disappear more, if they can afford it, I would say the top choice would be Townsend. |
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