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Brain Farts w/ Roon Nucleus

I have an original Roon Nucleus with a SSD drive in it.  Around 3GB of music.  Together with Tidal, Roon tells me that I have 2039 Artists, 4312 Albums, 61239 tracks, and 136 composers.  That is likely more than most users, but not as many as some of you, so I have read.
 

On a fairly regular basis, Roon has these brain farts moments, lasting 10-15 minutes, where I get the twirling Roon Icon and the system is shut down from playback.  It always eventually comes back. I don’t know the technical term, but I think it is a resort, reorganizing, re-something to the whole data base of music.  It always happens at the most inopportune time. Roon online forum has never come clean for me with an answer/fix.

I have revamped my Ethernet cabling and both the Roon Nucleus and the DAC/Streamer are mainlined, so I know it is not network drop outs.

I’ve read that others have had a similar problem, but never read a solution.  I have been looking into several angles to stop this.  (1) Upgrade to the Roon Nucleus Titan. (2) Checking out to see if some other Roon Ready Server is a better functioning piece of equipment, like the Innous.

I have two DACs/Servers in the house - BlueSound & dCS Lina - and they both have the same brain farts with Roon.  

I really like the functionality of Roon on the Nucleus.  My issue is not sound quality of Roon, it is the performance.  I must admit, that in all of my reading I have not been able to compare the functionality of a Roon Ready Innous vs. Roon Nucleus, or any other Streamer that folks mention here on the forum.

Any thoughts would be appreciated.  Thanks in advance.

pgaulke60
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gkelly
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Just an observation, INNUOS has both Tidal and Qobuz connect. It completely removes the need for roon. No longer is there a need for using the proprietary app(Sense) from the streaming manufacturer. unlike blue sound you have to use their BluOs app to get Tidal. Just open up the Tidal app and start playing music. Good luck on your future upgrade if you go with INNUOS like me and many others have enjoyed it immensely!

kennymacc
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I have a Roon Nucleus Plus with 4 GB.  All I can tell you is, you’re not alone.  Roon does have some annoying little glitches that, because I love Roon’s functionality so very much, they’re something that I have learned to settle in with and live with.  There seems to be no cure for the glitches and there seems to be nothing I can do to totally eliminate them.  It’s kinda like a love-hate relationship, but not even that serious.  I run a Hegel integrated amp with an Ayer Acoustics QX-5 Twenty Streaming DAC, switch, ethernet cables, etc.  The main glitch that I have experienced l in my audio system with Roon is it freezing.  I mean, it freezes my remote, or iPad, to where it will not respond when I push a button on it to stop the music, pause, play, etc.  When this issue occurs, sometime all I have to do is press the Roon icon on my iPad for it to re-set and go back to normal, and if that doesn’t work, I have to actually power-down my iPad, power it back up, and everything will re-set and go back to normal operations.  All of this only takes a couple minutes or so, so it's not too bad.  During some listening sessions, this issue may never occur, and then at other times, it may occur a couple times during an extended listening session.  After about four years of dealing with these minor issues that I call "HICCUPS,"  I’ve gotten used to them and have learned to cope with them, as they do not detract from the just incredible, overall listening experience that I get with my Roon Nucleus Plus in place.  Happy listening..      

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audphile1
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I would suggest the following 

In Roon settings go to Library tab and check your settings for Background Audio Analysis Speed (mine is set to Throttled) and On-Demand Audio Analysis Speed (mine is set to Off). 
 

Try same settings as I have. Or even set the Background audio analysis speed to Off. see if the issue goes away. 
Also try to disable any DSP. Do the changes one at a time.  

erik_squires
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The OP is probably not very technically savvy, but if he were I'd encourage him to open up a shell to his Nucleus and leave top running.  See what takes time when things slow down, and how much RAM is being consumed.  

Also, be aware that solid state drives can and DO fail, sometimes without warning.  Well, the signs are there if you know how to look at the S.M.A.R.T. disk stats but unfortunately few of us ever do and it's only when a system starts to misbehave that we wonder what's going on.   Your symptoms may be more related to a disk being bad than anything else, but hard to tell without checking.  

Make sure you have a solid backup of all your music. 

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