Do you Think Altec model 19 is outdated speakers ?

@bgross , Fantastic ! Valencia are truly outstanding speakers as far as I  know 2 versions A & B . Mind you All the Altec drivers and horns are excellent products. I  have 2 pair  of 416Z + 806A I  have been patiently waiting Craftsman who build Onken cabinets for my 414-8c & 807 he is 83 years of age it took him 4 months to build Onken Cabinets for me however he said he will build Valencia cabinets for me but have to wait till autumn until he finishes other orders not many craftsman left in UK , I've uploaded video on you  Tube about Onken style cabinets check it out if you want. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bI0PeIfivCo&pp=ygUcaHR0cHM6Ly95b3V0dS5iZS9iaTBwZWlmaXZjbw%3D%3D

Thank you participating and your unclear comments .  As if You are representing yourself  Team Leader…

Unclear?  Defending others makes one a team leader?

I see what’s truly going on. Your lacking in maturity- fight or flight vs working things out with others. Making excuses rather than facing criticism.  Looking through the lens of offense from others (defensiveness).   Excuses for your rude behavior.  Excuses for your unclear intentions. Prideful and selfish.  Default blaming others rather than owning your part.  Logic and reason will be trumped by emotional immaturity.  

@kennyc , you were talking about respect !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!  so is that way respect forum members ? DEFENDİNG WHO ? obviously you are part of group jumping to band wagon so you trying to score a goal to get praises from them you are making very clear. THİS İS CRYSTAL CLEAR.  you  ARE DEFİNİTELY representing  people you call them defensiveness people ? please NAME them so everyone can see . İf you were Mature enough YOU  WOULD  NOT DARE DARE TO CALL ME RUDE ! SELFİSH , . PRİDEFUL ,UNCLEAR . HOW CLEARLY DESCRİBED YOURSELF Which I Thank you for it. have nice day.

Seeking respect? What a baseless, pointless, temporary and immature goal.

My motivation is Gratitude- thankful and appreciative of the Agoners help and sharing of information.  Is simply caring for others difficult to understand?

Most arguments are simply a difference of opinion vs facts, I make it a point to not get involved.  But this is not the case- you’re unwarranted attacks on others- returning good with evil.  Whipping out the fact that you’re missing limbs as if it entitles you to something like maybe the right to be abusive.

Your quick to point fingers and your refusal to take ownership at your part speaks volumes. Although we don’t like to admit when we are wrong, the mature person realizes that as a human we make mistakes.  Unfortunately you likely have your self-esteem closely/foolishly linked to your being right and wrong, so admitting any wrong/error is extremely painful and thus you use avoidance (blame shifting, excuses, focus change…), than taking responsibility.  Logic and reasoning is fruitless to an emotionally closed mind.  

I’m not trying to attack you nor am I seeking to elevate myself, but it’s painful to sit idly by while you return good intentions with abuse to our Agon community.

It’s great that you find your system satisfying, that’s what we all strive for.  It’s also good that besides our dialogue you seem to enjoy sharing your knowledge and experience.  Seems you’ve had significant life challenges, I desire for the best for you.  I’m hoping you’ll please tone it down, have more patience, and to lift/help others.  Life is hard enough without adding strife.  

@kennyc . Here we go again . You are like Dog with the bone you do not let go!  constantly repeating yourself saying that as if I'm seeking Respect ,Affirmation, attacking A.gone community and yet you dare to call me all sort of unkind words you did insult me YOU HAVE REPEATEDLY Said you are defending DEFENSELESS PEOPLE ! You are accusing me MY UNWARRANTED ATTACKS ? Would you please tell me WHO DİD I ATTACK ? WHO ARE THE DEFENSELESS PEOPLE ?  ASKED YOU PLEASE NAME THEM  SO I CAN APOLOGIZE İF I OFFEND  THEM  BUT  YOUR DİD NOT  NAME ANYBODY  NOTHİNG  NADA !!!!! YOU are FULL OF CONTRADICTION  telling  me You are helping A.Gone community  Who are you  ? experienced technician, audio designer sound engineer ,or Mr KNOW İT ALL ??????? or a HERO behind the KEYBOARD ? Please take a look at the mirror and answer it yourself. YOU DO OWE ME  a APOLOGY  But I  only accept apology from people who are genuine and factual. HUMAN MİND İT WORKS LİKE A PARACHUTE İF İT'S OPEN İT WORKS ! İF İT DOESN'T OPEN TOUGH LUCK.! have nice day.