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@stuartk 

I think the French version was more quirky and stylized and... French. Although I am a fan of French cinema and have been since the early sixties when I saw "Jules et Jim." I am also a great Truffaut fan. I like the American version and am proud that we finally didn't screw up a foreign offering. 

My interest in consciousness actually overlaps with my interest in music. I want to know if people believe that the universe is conscious. If so, music very possibly preceded us. Or another way of putting it is that we exist to make music. Kind of airy-fairy stuff, but I'm interested for what I'm writing. 

@srinisr 

I couldn't find Suzuki playing J.S. Bach's cello suites on Qobuz, but I did find him playing C.P.E. Bach's cello concertos. I enjoyed them, but was not really able to hear his style. There are very few of his recordings on Qobuz.

@stuartk 

Here's a poem about Truffaut:

In Memory of Francois Truffaut

 

It doesn't have to be a big film

with a lot of words

an innocent obsession

often goes unexpressed

 

It's enough if just once

an evening with soft-spoken

reverence he slips the knife

between our eyes

 

& opens them

to some unseen beauty

dragged in off the street

through the night:

 

The face of an abandoned boy

lit by a movie marquee

cocked in discovery

on the brink of crime

 

@audio-b-dog 

I’m pretty sure Patience is a British production.

Thanks for the poem. I like the ending because I’m uncertain whether the kid  outside the theater is in the movie or not.

One view of the universe is that it’s all a big drama ("Lila", in Hinduism) and each of us is an actor playing a part. The tricky thing is, we forget we are actors and take it seriously, as though it were real. It’s just one of many stories people have invented in an effort to explain the paradoxical nature of life. Not one I’ve warmed to, personally.

 

@stuartk 

You're right. Patience is British. We don't tend to redo British programs so much, although "The Office" was one place where we did do a good job. There was a British show called "Coupling" which we totally botched. I read a review that said the British are masters of milking embarassing moments, and we didn't have that knack.

The poem was about "The 400 Blows" which was an autobiographical film that put Truffaut on the map. So the ending was both from the film and real life. But I loved the idea of a young troubled kid coming alive because he was about to go against all the adult rules with total conviction. In the film he tears down a movie poster in front of a theater. I was very upset when Truffaut died so young. At 52 I think. One of his best films which most people have never heard of is called "The Woman Next Door" with Fanny Ardent (his lover) and Depardeau. Such an interesting movie.

I see all religions and "transcendental" thought as metaphors to express humanity's dichotomy. That's why I am interested in religion at different historical periods. Religious beliefs express the zeitgeist of humanity at a particular historical period. Although I know Augustin is a highly regarded (Christian) philosopher, I think that he came up with one of the worst and most destructive philosophical ideas: original sin. To think that infants are born with sin is just not right.

I am listening to K.D. Lang's Hymns of the 49th parallel. It

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jmqCYvwx8rw

I see all religions and "transcendental" thought as metaphors to express humanity’s dichotomy. That’s why I am interested in religion at different historical periods. Religious beliefs express the zeitgeist of humanity at a particular historical period. Although I know Augustin is a highly regarded (Christian) philosopher, I think that he came up with one of the worst and most destructive philosophical ideas: original sin. To think that infants are born with sin is just not right.

 

 

If reincarnation exist, and the facts goes on this direction, "original sin" is only the  original inhability to goes to higher existence level because we had freely chose the worst choice and we must freely choose the right direction toward the Source instead of going with our "ego" .

"ego" is evidence of the original sin but evidence of our freedom and co-creative power...

Augustine is not totally wrong ...

@mahgister 

The reincarnation argument does not seem to me to have any more proof now than it ever did. I know my Buddhist friends believe in it. Perhaps in physics the infinite universe theory might approach reincarnation, but as far as I'm concerned that theory is only a theory. I think physics is from the male mind and therefore is happy to come up with a multiverse theory rather than acknowledge a creative force which is too suggestive of "God." I'd like to propose a "Multi-God" theory. It's all just thought experiments anyway. Even if you are Saint Augustin. Although, I'm hungry and I'd take his pear right out of his hand if he were standing in front of me, original sin be damned.

Now, back to music. I have been thinking about your creative time suggestion, in which musical time comes from the performer. I am especially struck with that as Qobuz gives me so many choices for Bach's Cello Suites that I can't go through them all.

I am now very happily listening to Fournier. Before him I was listening to Alisa Weilerstein. What I am thinking is that there seem to be three categories of musical performance. Number one, which I think you like best, is soul wrenching, in which the artist finds his/her musical timing. Number two is for the performer to get the hell out of the way and let the composer shine through. Number three is to try to create beauty, which I'm not sure you acknowledge or at least like in a musical piece. Let us say that Alisa Weilerstein is in the beauty category. Fournier in the get the hell out of the way category. And Starker in the soul-wrenching category. I may have mis-categorized these artists, but I think I might have the categories correct.

@frogman 

Are you listening?