W4S or Rega Dac - Opinions Wanted


I’m about ready to consider a new DAC, Price range $800-$1,400 max-used.
Currently I’m using a Music Hall Dac 25.2 with a VLink 24 bit 96khz USB to S/PDIF. I’ve also using an upgraded tube in the music hall. I enjoy the warmth of the Music Hall and the detail seems good. However I would like to try something new. I listen to mostly digital files, both Lossless and some Flac. Can I do better in this price range?
I’ve read great things about the W4S dac-1/ and 2, Rega and Eastern Electric dac. I have no way to demo these so I hoping for opinions from those who have listed to more than one of these. My associated equipment is Audio Research SP-9 MKIII, Wyred 4 Sound ST250, Music Hall DAC 25.2, V LINK 24 BIT 96 kHz ASYCHRONOUS USB TO S/PDIF, mac mini, Polk Lsi 9
bklynnupe
"Also, I’ve have read some descriptions of the w4s dac as being “too analytical” and lacking warmth. I suspect that my w4s amp and tube pre, is providing good amount of warmth."

Hi Bklynnupe, I can't speak of how the W4S might work in your system but if your impressions are that you are getting warmth with your tube pre and amp you certainly won't lose any of that with the Wyred. I haven't heard the Rega so can't comment but own a MHDT Havana an Eastern Electric Minimax Plus and an Oppo 95 in my quest for a good budget digital front end I could live with. The thought on purchase of the Oppo is its upgrade capability, particularly the Modwright tube mods, maybe in the future but for now it is in transport duty which it does quite well and is also great for AB comparisons of the different DACs I've purchased over the past 10 months.

After hearing a friends W4S DAC 1 with the cap upgrade in both my system and his the differences are quite clear. The DAC 1 with the cap upgrade is identical to the DAC 2 minus the remote, phase inversion option, volume option and limited to 24-bit 96kHz Asynchronous on the USB input rather than 192khz on the DAC 2. I recently purchased the DAC 1 with cap upgrade and have been happily listening through the Oppo 95 as transport for the past 2 weeks. I am not at this time into streaming or downloading files as of yet since I have an extended music collection and for now, remain on the sidelines. The W4S is NOT, in my experience any of what could be described as bright or analytical. I find it musically engaging and totally non-fatiguing which is the reason I purchased it having the opportunity to listen to my friend's over an extended period. The best review and what I would say is "spot on" with my listening impressions is Steven Stone's review in TAS. It is very resolving of spacial cues as is the Plus and the Oppo, somewhat less the NOS Havana but tonally it has more in common with the Havana but with more weight and large tonal images, greater detail and frequency extension. Superb dynamics and an ease to the presentation that keeps you relaxed and continually engaged in the music, a natural ebb and flow. To me it is clearly in another league over the aforementioned DACs in virtually all parameters although the NOS Havana, missing some of the detail and tonal density, which it is noted for, would be my clear 2nd choice over the either of the other two. I would definitely consider the cap upgrade for the extra 150.00 or just purchase a DAC 2. Hope this helps you somewhat with your concerns.
No experience with the Rega, but I wouldn't describe my W4S DAC 2 as bright or analytical. The Benchmark DAC1 I would describe as "bright and analytical."
Anyone who states the W4S DAC1 or DAC2 is bright or analytical has issues elsewhere in their rig.
I have had the W4S DAC2 almost since it came out and it is a superior product, pretty close to neutral, natural and realistic. You would have to spend 2-3x as much for a slight increment in peformance. The better the source, the better it sounds. I use it with AES/EBU and SPDIF inputs, so cannot opine on how USB input sounds.

Neal
I compared my DACMagic with an upgraded power supply to a friends W4S DAC2...the W4S was so analytical that it commented on my choice of socks. Weird. Actually, we liked both of 'em in our little comparison and that made me feel better, and after all, isn't that the important part? Please do not comment on this post if it can possibly make me feel bad.