Do you think you need a subwoofer?

Dear Sirspeedy: I wonder what happen with you and your mind. Almost two years ago everything was clear about ( after a lot of posts betwwen you and me reasoning about. ), here it is your agreement:
+++++ " Raul,as per your last thread,I finally DO get your point,which is valid.Best wishes!
Speedy! " +++++, this was in 2005 in this thread.

Now, +++++ " For a mfgr to recommend against selling "product" my radar told me that #1--here was a responsible company .. " +++++

I'm sorry to disagree about on this subject but ( like I already posted somewhere in this thread ) IMHO that mfgr people does not nothing about improve the quality sound reproduction with the integration of two subwoofers in true stereo way, simple they don't have the precise know-how about, this ignorance IMHO is not a " responsible company " but ignorance, that's all.

Sirspeedy please re-read here ( and send to that mfgr people ):

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1117893153&openflup&27&4#27

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1117893153&openflup&158&4#158

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1117893153&openflup&4&4#4

http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1117893153&openflup&176&4#176

If you and the Sumiko people can't understand what are on those links it is useless to follow talking about because both of you never had the opportunity to try the integration in your system of two subs in true stereo way but have argumentation against it: how could be that?, both of you continue with arguments with out facts!!!!.

Sirspeedy, maybe I could understand the Sumiko people ( because they are commercial oriented ) that sale the RELs that can't be integrated in true stereo fashion due that its crossover does not have a high pass filter but I can't understand to you ( with all respect ) that till today I think you are a wise and mature man.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Raul,in two years much can happen!...I changed my mind because, #1...I am very satisfied with my current(as of now) results,and #2...I have heard alot of superb set-ups since!!...The latest,being a Zanden/VTL/VAC/Brinkman/JM Labs Nova speaker driven "super system",in a large room.I liked the sound,like others present,but still have no reason to want more from my own low end performance,which I have greatly improved as of late....Also,my own group of audio friends(who have actually "heard" my set-up) are against the second sub,in "my" room!They've been in my room loads of times,so forgive me if I go with their recommendation.

"Til today I think you are a wise and mature man"...

Well sorry if you think otherwise!..Actually I can reverse the sentiment,as I would have thought that someone with your supposed experience would reserve judgement until something is actually "heard".In this case you are simply "assuming" something,based on theory.I choose my decisions on my actual aural experience.This is where we differ,I guess.
Best.

Hi Raul, I look forward to seeing new pictures of your room. And I should take my own advice and update pictures of my own room. While not much has changed equipment wise, the room itself is a bit tidier. Also I will post a picture of the REW freq response. I have my room fairly well acoustically treated and have been able to obtain a good inroom response.
Bob

Dear Sirspeedy: +++++ " but still have no reason to want more from my own low end performance... " +++++

this is almost the same that you posted in 2005 before you agree.

This sentence IMHO and with all respect to you tell me that you don't understand yet the whole means of the subwoofer goals to improve the quality reproduction of any system including the one that you just heard and yours.

Mark, you are the one that are loosing the quality improvement of the two subwoofer subject and it is ok for me.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear Bob: I like you need to do it.
+++++ " I have my room fairly well acoustically treated and have been able to obtain a good inroom response. " +++++

this is a critical subject and a very important link in the audio chain, good for you that already take care about: congratulations!.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.