ZYX Universe and Lyra Titan


I've been reading a lot about the Universe lately but have not read any comparisons with the Titan. Anyone heard them in similiar set-ups? Since I own a Helicon, I receive about a $1,400 credit trading it in for a Titan. Is the Universe $1,300 better at $4,700? I recognize the subjectivity of the question but does anyone have any strong opinions? Thanks.
richardmr
The Universe is a top quality cartridge, but in the room Chris Brady had the misfortune of setting up his Teres 360 NO cartridge would have sounded good. I couldn't stay in that room for more than a few minutes without getting a headache. Chris felt the same way and will return with a vengeance next year.
Does that mean the Schroeder sounded bad ?
Or is the Schroeder very hard to setup ?
Or is the Schroeder not a good match for the Teres 360 ?
Hi Kha

I think if you call either Frank Schroeder or Chris Brady they will tell you what was wrong with that room.
It is certainly not a true reflection of either of those gent's products.

Paul
Hi Paul,
why does Schroeder everytime someone post that the
system with his Tonearm sound awfull, he replies
that this is due to the setup, or mismatch of other
components in the system or the room etc....
As with other Tonearm, there are less responce from
the designer.
This gives me as a potential buyer an unsatisfied view
of the Schroeder Tonearm, as I am not willing to modify
the setting each time I hear an LP.

Regards KHA
Hi Kha

I think Mr.Schroeder likes to "watch from the sideline" about what others are writing about the arm he makes because he knows them best. Like a parent looking out for his kids.

I was not at the show but having spoken the Mr.Schroeder he did the setup of his arm and Chris as a dealer and owner is probably more than capable of doing a adequate setup. WHen you are put in a show setting like that, with your doors open to the public "have to run what you brung". So I would attribute it to something else in the room, but a public forum like this I will not repeat what was thought to be wrong with the sound of that room.

I know someone who has is using a Schroeder Ref one and he cannot say enough good things about the sound it produces. It is not like any other pivoted arm he uses, but some may not like it and will be more than willing to state it a public forum like this.
Pcosta
Are you referring to the recent RMAF show at Denver?

If yes, I would agree that the setup was err... "less than ideal".

I did get a chance to listen to the Titan/VPI in another room demoing the Audiospace amps driving Harbeths and I was truely impressed by what I heard, certainly one of the better analog setups.