Manly Steelhead - any downside??

Vetterone,I owe it to you to keep this brief,yet,hopefully interesting.
My friend and myself have spent a good part of winter 2004/5 trying out the vast majority of phono tubes.This actually ended in June 2006.We tried the Amperex 6922 White labels PQ- which were fabulous.We tried Ediswan 6922 and 7308,also fabulous.All tubes were tested as ULTRA low noise.

We did try Teles,mega bucks,BTW--and were not real happy with these.A bit too lean for our taste.Also tried was Amperex 7308,very nice.A bit soft.In all honesty,and in similarity to your own findings,we got our hands on some KILLER low noise Siemens CCa's,which cost dearly,and these were definitely the best we've had in our phono sections.These tubes,to us,were so good that we may end our quest here,though I may still spring for a set of "Pinched Waisted Amperex".I don't think I can hold out, without at least trying these.ALL tubes had really distinctively different sounding signatures,as you must know.This is really a great way to voice a system to a specific taste,though many manufacturers won't let on to how effective NOS tubes can really be.

BTW-the guy "SAM" who sells on Audiogon,is very reliable,and seemingly honest.

Best regards!

thanks Tim, I have seen that web site, but $325 is a lot to pay for a set of tubes!.

Vetterone indicated he bought his amperex 6922 tubes for $40 bucks.

that is where I would like to shop if he will give up his source:)

Hey guys, after living with the steelhead for a week I decided not to pull the trigger. For me and my tastes it was SOTA in bass, upper bass/lower mid texture, quieter than the Pass Xono, but ultimately I did not get into its slightly forward matter of fact upper mids and treble. It was crystal clean, but did not have enough meat on the bone for me and was ultimately fatiguing.
I did change the sovtec 6922's to JJ/tesla and that was better, but overall I didn;t want to listen to it enough to justify the steep price of admission.

guess this is why there are sooo many hi fi brands out there - everyone has different tastes and bias's.

Looks like I need a slightly warmer phono stage -

any idea's guys?

Lamm LP2, if you don't have a really low-output cartridge (it only has 57db of gain), might be more along those lines, or sell the phono and line stage and get a Jadis JP80MC, put some nice NOS Amperex BBs or Telefunken Ccas in the phono section and prepare to be seduced by the sound. Quite frankly, though, the Pass is a good unit, it is not easy to beat.

Downunder, there is no piece of gear that is right for everyone. I applaud you for giving the Steelhead a good audition and reaching a well reasoned conclussion. Too bad more people don't function the same way.