Schroeder vs. Triplanar VII Sonic Differences

Hello Aoliviero,
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All Schroeder arms can be ordered with a VTF fine tuning "screw" that allows making minute changes without altering any other parameter.
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Once you're in the ballpark of the recommended/desired VTF, turning a knurled wheel that is situated in the end stub(No.2) or the counterweight (DPS & Reference) will shift enough mass to account for a VTF change of 0.02 grams per revolution.
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As for Thomas Heisig’s comment on the SQ version of the Reference, I'd like to know from where he gets his information. Suffice it to say that neither the quoted price difference nor the differentiating features have been represented accurately.
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Kha(hello!) had the opportunity to hear the SQ version at the AAA Frankfurt show in early March. The Ref. SQ (with Dynavector XV-1s) was mounted on a TW Acoustic Raven AC aside a Tri-Planar MkVII (+Eminent, My Sonic Lab) , a Da Vinci Grandezza (+Dyna TeKaitora) and a Jelco arm (+Denon 103R).
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As the combinations (that includes the choice of phono stages: Pass XONO, Klyne, Tron Seven, Whest) were chosen by the designer of the turntable(Thomas Woschnik) for the best mechanical, electrical and sonic match(your choices might be different :-), it should be interesting for the participants of this thread to hear Kha’s impressions of the comparisons that were done.
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Those who have any questions regarding the SQ version can contact me privately after April the 6th(I'm currently abroad with infrequent access to the net, sorry).

Best Regards,
Frank

Frank,

Thank you for highlighting that feature. Forgot about that one. Sorry. Any chance of giving us a brief summary of the SQ version?

Kha,

Any comments on the TT/cartidge comparison Frank is referring to.

A further thought. I keep referring to the adjustment differences between these arms as difficult or easy. The more I think about it, the more this seems like the wrong terminology. Once again, I refer you to Thom's comments earlier in the thread. I was basically trying to decribe exactly this point just earlier. Never mind my rambling's, here is Thom's comment:

"I'd add only one thing to Doug's comments - something I make a point of emphasizing to everyone who asks me about these arms.

I've noticed that different people relate to or interact differently with each of the tonearms. Some find the Schröder to be easier to set up, while others relate better to the Triplanar. Both arms are straight-forward however.

Because Frank's arm is so innovative, the user will most definitely benefit from a guided tour, but this is not to say that it is difficult any more than the Triplanar is.

I think setup should factor strongly into the decision, because the arm that you interact with best is the arm you will set up best, and guess what? They are both so good, that the one you set up best will be ... you guessed it ... the best ... at least as far as you are concerned, which is all that matters"

Andrew

PS, when will Audiogon get a spell-checker?

Hello to all!! First off, Frank, remember what you told me? Keep off the PC as much as you can. I want to make sure you are in excellent condition and are banging out thoses arms. I want you to be ready when you get my order (I am leaning toward your arm) for a Reference or DPS!!

Andrew, great talking with you yesterday. I am so happy to hear that you can hear the difference between analog and CD digital ....and with a $40.00 Grado...WOW!!!! The Tri-Planer MUST be a wonderful arm.

Mike, is the Quattro now the Gavia?? I am thinking of that TT with a Schroder (or Tri-Planer). I think it would make a good match. However, to keep things in perspective, I was leaning toward the Serac or Gavia plater and then moving up to the Stelvio later (hey Thom why all the strange names????).

Sirspeedy......you are most welcomed to my home with or without the Schroder. And yes, I will need help with the installation of the arm and TT. I need to find a way to get Frank Schroder to Staten Island and help us with the set up....hum.......good Italian dinner???? Hummm???of course the wine and such.

And so bad news....I am DEFINITELY going to the VTV but I need to rearrange my dates and attend on Sunday May 7th. I have to attend my brother-in-laws wedding on the 6th. Sorry if I will miss anyone going on the 6th but perhaps I could hook up with you over the phone or PC to get a run down of the highs and lows of the show. Sirspeedy, I will e-mail you off line.

Keep this going guys......Andrew's input on the Planer and Schroder are most helpful.

Now if I can manage to go with Dan and Andrew on this trip to Colorado......hum???

Rick (RWD)

SirSpeedy's criticisms of the TriPlanar's shortcomings are still accurate, but his conclusions are not.

Yes, there is play in the VTA/SRA threads, but this is easily dealt with. We make quick, precise and consistently repeatable SRA adjustments every day.

There is no fine VTF adjustment, but this is easily dealt with. We make quick, precise and consistently repeatable VTF adjustments to the nearest .01g or less every day.

Every arm has its idiosyncracies. The question is, can they be dealt with or do they present insuperable barriers to sonic performance? On a TriPlanar or Schroeder they are easily dealt with and present no such barrier.