Glider upgrade?


Seeking recommendations for a Glider replacement. I believe this is probably the weakest link in my system now. I love its charactaristics but I can tell the detail and "snap" could be improved. I have a Kuzma Stabi table and arm with a Herron phono preamp, Audible Illusions 3A preamp and a Beard tube amp. I'm running a pair of Audio Physic Scorpio's, as well.

Any suggestions would be most welcome. I'm considering the following: Benz, Shelter, Lyra but am open to all.

Thanks,
Mike
rballdude
I went from a Glider to a Benz M2 wood body on a Kuzma Stogi tonearm (I have an L2 now which is the low output version of the M2). If you like the Benz sound you will appreciate the upgrade to the wood body models. I believe Benz offers some type of trade in program that might save you a few bucks in the process of upgrading. Best to check with a Benz dealer for details though (I recommend John Barnes of Audio Unlimited in Denver, CO if you are in the US as I have puchased all my cartridges from him and he is great to work with).
Thanks for the feedback, you have raised some good issues. I have not established a budget so far. I have no problem buying used gear and bought my amp second hand. Is there a rule of thumb for the recommended percentage one should spend on a cartridge as compared to the table/arm? the entire system? I believe Robert Harley suggested 40% on the front end if you're really into analog, however there is no indication of the amount for the cartridge.

The dealer I purchased the Glider from said Benz cartridges have a generally "warm" sound and said if I like that to stay in the Benz line. By upgrading, I would get more detail, clarity and better imaging. Another dealer said the Shelter 901 would be an excellent move up. Sure would be nice to audition cartridges as we do speakers prior to purchase!

Clio09 what did you notice when you upgraded to the L2?
I went from the Glider to a Lyra Lydian B and have never looked back. Although not made any more the Argo or Dorian are in the same price range and reportedly better than the Lydian.
I noticed exactly what your dealer said. The wood body series are faster, more detailed, and if set-up properly the imaging and soundstage are much better than the Glider.
You really should enlist the help of a dealer who sells many brands of cartridges and knows the sound characteristics of them. David Lewis in Philadelphia or Audio Revelations of Carlsbad, California carry many lines. They will also know the loading and gain characteristics of your phono preamp and the mass loading aspects of your table/arm combo all of which are very important in selecting a cartidge. Without paying close attention to these details, it's almost senseless to talk about the "sound" of any cartridge since a table/arm, phono preamp mis-match will not yield the true sound of any cartridge.