Cartridge break in device


Does any one have any experience with the $700 cartridge break -in gadget that Mike Fremmer mentioned a few month back in one of his columns?
kftool
Doug,

The Cardas lp is a good Idea. I read it was good as a demagnetizer, but since I have a cart demag unit, I never gave any thought.

From what I remember of Fremmer's remarks, it broke in the suspension without exposing the stylus to unnecessary wear. Extended useful stylus life seems like a plus, especially with the retipping costs approaching a good % of the total cartridge cost. If it only breaks in and doesn't damage the suspension in any way, it may not be a bad idea. The problem may be that if it does damage the suspension, even slightly, you'd probably never know since there would've been no frame of reference for the change.

Thanks, Ken
Ken,

Be very careful with that active de-mag unit. Many cartridge makers warn against them. Some specifically void the warranty if you use it on their cartridge. The Cardas de-mag tracks are safer (and effective IME).

A device that would exercise the suspension without wearing the stylus seems a useful idea, though as you say the risks are hard to assess. The best frame of reference for the change, obviously, is to suffer the original problem: "enjoy" the cartridge changes during natural break in while playing music. An insoluble dilemma?

Doug
Doug,

The demag unit I have is a Sumiko that I purchased 15 or 20 years ago. I never used it since I never listened to much vinyl. What are the conditions that result in magnetization of a cartridge? Is it hours of playing time, months- years, both, or what? What are the audible signs that it needs to be demagnetized?

Tomorrow I'll order the Cardas LP and put the Sumiko on Audiogon.

Tks and Happy New year.

Ken



What are the conditions that result in magnetization of a cartridge? Is it hours of playing time, months- years, both, or what?
That's a controversial topic. Some argue it's impossible for any part of a cartridge save the magnets themselves to become magnetized, since they're made of nominally non-magnetic materials. Others argue that trace impurities or other factors could allow magnetization. I avoid the "why" and "how" arguments, since I lack the scientific knowledge to contribute anything useful.

Much less controversial is that something, somehow changes after de-magging, whether with an active device like yours or the Cardas record. (Some have stated that once you actively de-mag you must do so more and more often, and that doing so progressively weakens the magnets. Thus the warranty issue.) The LOMC's I've owned (Shelter, ZYX) have all benefitted from a monthly (or so) pass on the Cardas LP. I've not noticed any need to "treat" the cartridge more frequently, so IME the Cardas LP will not harm the cartridge or shorten its life, beyond the few minutes added to total usage of course.

What are the audible signs that it needs to be demagnetized?
Until you know the sound of a cartridge in your system well, it will be difficult to notice. Nothing goes downhill suddenly. There's just a gradual diminution of inner detail, microdynamic subtleties, and "life". Everthing gets slowly more bland and boring. It sounds like playing with excessive VTF or excessive antiskating, the livliness is squashed out of the music.

Five minutes on the Cardas LP and everything comes back. It sounds like you cleaned the windows.

Doug