Whats the best record cleaning fluid?

Jejune,

dare I respond...

You and I would get along a lot better if you would simply take me at face value. I'm in this business because I like to turn people on to ways that they might enjoy music better. I work hard at researching how to best do this for the same reasons that all of us here work at getting our systems to sound better. In my experience, many manufacturers are in it for the same reason. Some are more willing to charge well for the 100s of hours that it often takes to come up with a superior product that is worthy of its price. Invariably results are mixed. Mistrust is understandable but isn't always warranted.

Your response to my first post seemed to be mocking my simple intentions. After your reponse to my second post I realized that I had read too much into your minimalist remark and admited to same. My following remarks were not meant to imply anything other than precisely what I said.

Coincidentally, Lloyd called today and we talked about this and the other thread re: Prelude that I now remember you contributing to. Lloyd has not yet heard from your friend or anyone else about returning Prelude product. He also related the entire story of his experience with Disc Doctor and Audio Inteligence and his developement process of Prelude. Perhaps only one side of the story and a biased one at that but I see no evidence of unethical behavior; quite the contrary.

As I said before, I'm still interested in any specific constructive input you or your friends may have.

I think that there are a few very good cleaning formulas on the market currently. The problem is that the overpriced POS cleaning machines have underated vacumes.
I will put a $60 shop vac up against any RCM and make it look like a toy. A ultra pure water rinse is also very important.

Tim

I will put a $60 shop vac up against any RCM and make it look like a toy.

FWIW, I used a GroovMaster (sic) an old turntable and a modded Shop Vac to do record cleaning for two years. Then I bought a Loricraft.

It isn't the Loricraft that looks like a toy. It's the right tool for the job.

Of course my basement floor is really clean too, since that old "RCM" is the right tool for THAT job. ;-)

I like Disk Doctor followed by two DI rinses. With the suds in DD, I assume it cleans any grime much better than Record research labs. I plan to do a comparison soon.

Suds do absolutely nothing in record cleaning fluids, shampoos, etc.; they are strictly cosmetic.

Another successful albeit useless marketing tool.