New Teres Direct Drive Motor Available as Option


Hi Folks:
It looks like Teres is now offering a direct drive motor as an option on their regualar tables. As a Teres 255 owner I'm contemplating the upgrade. Has anyone tried the new motor on there existing/old Teres, and does it seem like the upgrade is worth it? Here's a link to the new product:
http://www.teresaudio.com/verus-motor.html

Cheers,
John.
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Pauly,
Just what is your agenda here? We've been blessed to hear your ramblings on physics and how non-suspended tables can never be the equal of suspended tables. That's the kind of discussion I'll never have with you again as it only makes you look smarter than you are and me foolish. Now you come here to this thread and instead of discussing the subject from a scientific /engineering point of view, you just start throwing stones about how you'd never do business with Thom, Chris, or any other small business. I read your post several times. Don't piss down my back and tell me it's raining. You meant that to be condescending because that has always been the tone of your posts.
Doug,

Thanks for suggesting a fly fisherman's blood knot. Now the thread runs smooth & quiet. Using this type of knot it's pretty much impossible to make two threads of identical length in order to run multiple threads. But a single thread works well if pulled tight.
Dan, it seems you have an issue because you perceive I dissed your idols. I give you my apologies but assure you any disrespect on my regard is limited to your imagination only.

Asking a retailer to make a product accessible for audition is not disrespectful. Nor is declining the suggestion to personally spend many hundreds of dollars to do so. I doubt Chris or Thom take offense in what I say, and are more than likely aware that they could have access to a bigger market if they could accommodate folks such as myself.

As for discussing the thread, again I have no way to evaluate the product at hand except at great expense too myself. The sum total of your 'technical' discussion is a combination of accepting the product as sound because you 'know' the manufacturer, and by responding in a regrettable tone when your suggestions are not found to acceptable.

As for rain or urine, I will leave the puerile aggression all to you.

Dgarretson, I understand marketing a product like a $5000 turn table would take on a much different from the product I market. However, companies like VPI, Oracle, Basis etc. do make some of their products available for review. I would like Teres and Galabier to provide me with the same opportunity.

As for all the good reports I have heard, I find it very difficult to take individuals seriously who lack even the basic ability to control their emotions on a bulletin board. Quite sad really.

Regards
Paul
Dgarretson,
Dougdeacon is completely right about the profile of the motor pulley being slightly bulged in the center. While my Delphi uses a belt, the convex profile of the pulley keeps the belt perfectly centered. It never touches the flanges above and below the belt during operation.
Pauly,

I think it's unfortunate to critique business issues that are premature and distract from consideration of the Verus motor as an engineered product that arrives at a timely moment in TT design.

Recent evolution in TT design seems to have mostly divided between belt-driven models with heroically massive platters & high-torque motors vs. lightweight born-again idlers & direct-drive models both new and remanufactured vintage. I've heard enough people whose ears I trust get excited about those damned Lencos to pique my curiousity. But intuition tells me that direct-coupled motors, together with the more sophisticated bearings, platters, and plinths of a modern TT (maybe almost ANY good modern TT), may be the next big thing. The Verus is the only solution I'm aware of that lets one test this proposition by performing a user-friendly heart transplate on his own TT in the privacy of his living room. It's an appealing idea. It might just upset the received wisdom that any given manufacturer's TT design is to be viewed as painstakingly cut from one piece of cloth that can't be improved upon outside of arm, cartridge, and platform substitutions. Of course if enough people find that this motor can make any belt-drive TT sound better, then how long will it be before the direct-coupled paradigm replaces belt drive altogether? And if heavy platters and their robust bearing assemblies are unnecessary with a direct-coupled motor, then how long before lighter assemblies take over & drive down costs of top models?