Raven owners - how's your mid-range?


I've replaced my 30 year-old Rega Planar 3 with the Raven AC and the luscious midrange I used to have is GONE!!!!
With the same Hadcock GH 228 and ZYX Universe that I had on the Rega, the Raven has increased treble information and energy, but has removed the palpable 3-dimensional depth I used to have with the Rega 3.
I've also mounted a Dynavector DV1s on a new Continuum Copperhead tonearm with even MORE devastating results.....hugely emphasised treble energy, but 2-dimensional recessed mids!
I have tried all combinations of VTA and VTF with little improvement in the mids.
Have any of you also experienced this in a high mass table?...or are there any ideas/suggestions for bringing back my beautiful midrange?
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Thanks for posting this. I have been very seriously thinking of buying the Raven One. I hope you get more feedback on this.
Stuff happens. I had a Superscoutmaster with the 9 inch arm into which I had installed a Benz Ebony H. The sound was absolutely gorgeous with deep subteranean effortless lows, huge sound stage with layers of depth, air, and all the good stuff. You could make it earsplitting loud, and not be offended by distortion. Being a nutty audiphile, I upgraded by putting the 10.5i arm on the table and sold the H for the top of the Benz line LP. The sound is very good but not nearly as wonderful as the H in the 9 incher was. I've adjusted everything immaginable..I'm getting new resistors from Ayre to change the loading. I'm hoping its a matter of breakin, but its been a couple of months already. If I do find Nirvana I'm not touching this thing again.
I have a Raven AC on order with Jeff Catalano. I live on the west coast and recently made a trip east. I took the time to visit Jeff in NYC and heard the AC with 3 tonearm / cartridge combos. The best sounding was a Dynavector Arm / Dynavector Mono top of the line cartridge. I did not hear a loss of mid-range character although the Graham Phantom / Myabi 47 and Tri-Planar / Zyx 4D certainly exhibited different characters. All sounded very good. I too am a long time owner of a Welltempered Classic and a Benz Ruby 2 as someone else posted so I have gobs of mid-range as my comparison model. You are not indicating what kind of platform you are using under the Raven or if you are using Still Points for the feet. What cable are you using with your arm? How adept are you at arm and cartridge set-up? Tracking force and VTA are paramount parameters to get right. I will leave electronics out of this since you are using the same arm and cartidge with the Raven as with the Rega. Have you contacted Jeff for help? Hope you get your answer soon.
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Thanks for all the helpful replies.
Last night I listened till 1am and it was sounding very good.
I'm hoping the problem is with the new Copperhead arm and its brand new exotic wiring which has is still burning-in after about 60 hours.
I think the Hadcock is out of its league here and the massive shift in detail (especially in the high frequencies) that the Raven has delivered, has shocked my 30 years of 'easy-listening' reference and I need time to adjust.
Last night I caught a taste of the addiction for detail that the Raven delivers....and it was easy to take.
The Raven is like switching on ALL the floodlights on the stage of a theatre where before you were happily watching by candlelight.
I have a Schroeder Ref arm coming shortly and if the Copperhead arm cable (or arm itself) is a problem, the Schroeder should settle the argument.
For now, I can't wait to get home and put some vinyl on the Raven!