Lotus cleaning system oxygenated water for LP's?

I'm convinced anyone who feels dry cleaning is as effective
as wet cleaning has never taken the time to listen and compare. Conversely, I've never known anyone who used a wet cleaning system that ever went back to simple dry brushing. New records, in my experience, benefit significantly from being wet cleaned.

This is an old argument. I'm not sure why I'm even responding. People believe what they believe and many are not open to having that belief challenged.

E/M : The idea that you propose is "Very Interesting" to steal a tag line from a 1960's TV show. The interesting thing about vinyl is that the compounds used for pressing may or may not be organic in nature. Most in the industry here and across the pond just will not tell.

A few years ago I spent an interesting ( there's that word again) evening drinking Calfornia wine with a henna streaked/ravin haired, blue eyed German beauty, Martina, who had been doing research for years into the origins of LP vinyl compounds. What she didn't know about the materials , chemicals and one little known secret -- Almost to a person the LP compound developers kept the formula's in their heads not on paper. One thing besides ... that she left me with was a fact she learned --Many vinyl compounds suceed keeping LPs flexable for years by entraping small amounts of H20 in the vinyl and pressing compounds. She suspected that rehydrating vinyl was a key to keeping the groves alive with music while at the same time sluffing off old degraded pressing muck so that what the listener hears is the actual vinyl not stuff entrapped by the manufacturing process or time. So, if the cleaning process triggers the release of micro-amounts of H2O from the LP that maybe not such a good idea. But you will not know for sure unless you experiment. E/M ,stop-bye the steam cleaning thread maybe we have an idea or two to complement yours.

Maybe we can get some 'heavy water' and test that, too. Oh, what we will do to put maddnes to work.

"'Wet' cleaning doesn't necessarily imply cleaning only with water. Nrchy made it clear water was the 3rd step in a multistep process."

Other than water, I'd be curious to know what other liquid base he's using in the first two steps.

'Wet' cleaning doesn't necessarily imply cleaning only with water. Nrchy made it clear water was the 3rd step in a multistep process."

Other than water, I'd be curious to know what other liquid base he's using in the first two steps.

I don't know what Nate's answer will be, but in my case the other liquid is Premier, a product of Micro Care.

This is the only product other than the original "First" by Nitty Gritty that dissolves mold release and other contaminates in one application.

First was banned by the EPA many years ago, I have only one bottle left that I keep as a reference against other cleaners.

Premier is based on Vertrel, a Dupont substitute for Freon that seems to be equally effective and yet safe for the environment (as far as we currently know).

Like First, Premier should be followed by Record Research, Lloyd Walkers cleaner, Audio Intelligent or whatever you're currently supporting as best.

In any case, there is no doubt that removing debris from old and new LP's improves sound.

This was true with my Nitty Gritty, which was clearly beaten by my VPI 17F and improved again when I upgraded to the Odyssey RCM, which is basically a hot rod version of the Keith Monks, but built in Germany.