Graham Phantom vs Triplaner

I am amazed from some "experiences" here, because some say - and think - that most of socalled Top Arms today are more or less close, sound more or less close, too and the differences depend on tweaks .... etc.
Well, I had (or have) the Tri VII, Phantom, Schroeder, SME V, Air Line, Graham 2.0/2.2 and some others here and compared them.
Their differences are not subtle, sometimes they are huge.
When some can not hear that, it is no problem, then they have probably speakers or electronics which is not able to do the task.
I had no problems to find out that some lack detail, or have problems to hold the Setting, or have problems with the bearing in combination with some cartridges.... and so on ....
Thank you about the information that all manufacturers are so nice and friendly. I whined after reading that.
The world is good :)

D, My bad. I was looking for a title reading 312S review. I mostly just look at the pictures anyway...

Thomas, I hope I had nothing to do with your whining. For some reason everybody was in a very special mood this year. I had the best time in many years, and if it's OK with you I would like to share with the guys not able to attend. If you are amazed when you learn something new, you should feel grateful. And maybe say "thank you". Looks like you have a pretty decent system there, nothing to "whine" about. You could do with a speaker upgrade, but couldn't we all? Perhaps it's a language thing , I'm not really sure I understand your post. Did you have a point you wanted to make? Z

Hey Thomas,I think what mas "meant" was that at some point,"very high up the performance ladder",the differences are more about compatibility,and correct settings.The differences between the Kuzma,TRI,Phantom,Davinci,alone,should not make or break a good set-up,if done correctly.
-:)

BTW Thomas,I believe I have on "many occassions" mentioned my superlative listening experiences with an air bearing parallel tracking arm!I mentioned that it was my "opinion" that anyone not hearing a superb set-up utilizing one,was missing something special!..I still believe this,but to infer that these differences,between the "absolute best" arms(take the 2.2 and SME off that list,and I owned both of them)will be HUGE is not the "complete picture"!
Though I miss my listening exposure to the air bearing design at my friend's home,that system employing a different and not quite as good arm,is still quite superb.By "any" standard,and trust me,it's owner is absolutely as critical as any here!!If anyone is so posessed of an opinion that this business of "super-arm" differences(though they DO exist) is something to get overly concerned about(at "this" level),then I think you are listening to the hardware too much,and not focusing on the music,like you could.I think there comes a point where over-analysis takes away from musical pleasure!I too like to gaze at the coolness of my set-up.
My own perspective,though I seem to get overly analytical at times,is we still split hairs a "bit" too much.
In truthfulness,when I was home sick awhile ago,and posted that long winded post about why I felt the Phantom had a better chance of outperforming the Triplanar(I spent my money on both)due to lower potential bearing noise,I NEVER really felt one would outpoint the other in any really meaningful way,that could NOT be compensated for elsewhere in the system!I bought what I preferred,but could EASILY have gone the other way,with a smile on my face,if "circumstances were different"!
BTW,Z,why do I get the distinct impression you are a fan of Dennis Miller? -:)

Best.

Sir, HUH? From what band? The comedian? Bill Maher, maybe. But I am a Republican. Plus, I write my own stuff. HA! I did it again! Onhwy is watching, so I have to be good. Jou got to splain it to me! (couldn't resist) Hey, I have something, give me a multisyllabic for DM's brand/flavor of comedy.

Down, Can I also mooch the 20/12 review? Please? It is too late now to go to Barnes & Noble, read it, then put it back on the rack.

Thomas, According to the comparo I just read, you are WAY non de rigeur. I would be willing, buddy, to help you out here; get a TT that accommodates a 12, and I send you a few bucks for the Basis. Just a peek at the altruist that is the ZIEMAN! LMK buddy, LMK. Z.