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Vinyl Frontend/Linn LP12 Question

Hi Everyone:

I am contemplating an upgrade of my vinyl frontend and could use some advice--particularly from users of Linn system analogue. I'm currently running a VPI Scout/JMW-9/Dynavector 20XM through a ARC SP-16. In approaching a new setup, I want to think systemically--putting together a vinyl playback system where table/arm/cartridge AND phono preamp work synergistically. My goal is to improve vinyl playback across the board--particularly dynamics, detail and soundstaging. (I've recently added an Esoteric X-03Se to my system and my digital front end now vastly outperforms my vinyl playback).

I've got a few tables in mind, including the DPS, Rega, Kuzmi and the Linn Sondek. Here is one scenario: Go with an LP12/Lingo/Linto (arm and cartridge to be from Linn but not sure which yet). I'd replace the SP-16 with an LS-26 and run the front end combo through the latter. Some questions:

How does a modern LP 12 (Cirkus/Keel/Trampoline/Lingo) compare with some of the top vinyl playback out there right now? I used to own an LP12/Akito/K-9 many years ago and liked it but grew weary of the setup requirements and moved on. Does a fully upgraded LP12 compare favorable with some of the better systems out there or is it an antiquated system that has been refined but falls far short of "state of the art"?

Which of the available upgrades are worth considering? Which are really mandatory?

How many LP12 users also run the Linn phonostage (Linto)? Is this the best way to go or would I be better off with, say, a PH-5 from ARC?

Thanks for the advice and assistance. The rest of the system is an ARC 150.2, Daedalus DA-1.1 Speakers and Empirical Design cables.
128x128dodgealum
oregon
820 posts
 
Hi Dodge,
I looked at the Linn, Nottingham, Regas, and a few others. This was 6 years ago, but it was the Linn that started my search for a good-excellent front end.
My neighbor has a Linn and a a fantastic LP collection. The search was on.
Six + years later, I have become a Lenco fanatic! I have 4 in my home.
My recommendation is to consider a vintage Lenco. They are superior to many super expensive tables, simple to use and set up. Best of all, once you have this as your front end piece, good electronics down the chain will provide what we all strive for- dynamic, detailed, full spectrum sound/music!

I have photos and links for more info.
jaybo
4,478 posts
 
the linn is still a benchmark product. you might even look at the threns td160hd, or td350. i will tell you though, that moving up the vpi chain is an option too. the scoutmaster seems to have lots of happy campers, though moving to the linn will be different for sure.
tobias
1,534 posts
 
If, years ago, you grew weary enough of your Linn's setup requirements that you decided to move on, what makes you think you won't grow weary of those setup requirements once more?

Maybe a turntable with simpler setup would be a better choice: Galibier, Teres, Scheu, Nottingham Analogue.
rello
311 posts
 
Tobias has a great point. I was a long time LP12 listener and upgrader. I really did like the table but hated dealing with it every time I wanted to change something. I Finally purchased an Avid Volvere which is not only a better performer but also easy to setup on your own. This is especially true if you use an SME tonearm.
birdies
85 posts
 
No easy answers here. Tobias's point is well-taken and only you can answer the maintenance question. I have no problem with it myself. My setup is an LP 12/Cirkus driven by a Naim Armageddon power supply, with a Naim Aro arm housing a Dynavector XX 2 Mk. 2. Right now, I'm using a Dynavector P-75 Mk. 2 phono pre (fabulous for the money and great synergy with a Dynavector cartridge), but will be upgrading to the new Naim Superline. No Trampolin. If you can wall mount or have a dedicated stand on a totally solid floor, the LP 12 is quicker and more dynamic without it. People argue until the cows come home about power supply, phono pre, and cartridge choices for the LP 12 and I haven't heard a wide enough sampling to offer anything but my own choices. But as far as tonearm choice is concerned, I have heard a number on LP12s and strongly recommend the Aro. It totally plays to the Linn table's strengths. Good listening!
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