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classic rock lps on VPI

I've detailed in previous posts my dislike for the sound of mediocre recorded rock lps on my VPI Scoutmaster with JMW 10.5i.

I have elicited opinions about a second tt setup with a Thorens TD160 for rock recordings and VPI for the rest. I'm not sure I want to go this way.

So, in an effort to use the VPI for both types of recordings, I've returned to seeking a mod program for the VPI that will allow for pleasant listening to both the rock and the rest of my already excellent sounding lps.

I've had some very excellent suggestions for a second tonearm wand that will be used exclusively for the rock recordings. I can get it either custom wired with Cardas wire, or the standard Discovery cable. At this point I am pointing towards the Cardas, as I've heard its warmer in the mids. I also thought the Discovery cable was a bit closed in on top on my previous JMW 9 tonearm, ie. the Cardas. Any thoughts on this?

As for cartridge, at this point I'm pointing towards either a Sumiko Blue Point Special MkIII, or Denon 103R, possibly modded with wood body. My only concern with the Denon would be low compliance. May not match up well with the 10.5i tonearm? Any suggestions here?

Finally, I've had suggestions for the Mini HR-X feet, adding a bit of spaciousness, warmth, refinement. Any feedback on these?

Thanks, Scott
sns
jaybo
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two rock solid performers. if you want to had a fun factor and cool factor all at once, try a decca maroon or an AT150 on that thorens...and stand back. don't dance around too closely to the table.
sns OP
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I have had a number of recommendations for that AT cartridge. In the meantime I've ordered another Rega tonearm board from soundsupport.com, going to send if off to Pete Riggle for some custom fitting to his VTAF and teflon insert. I will then be able to dial in exact VTA (perhaps lower in rear to bring up bass), and I know that Rega arm likes to be loose as a goose, so the teflon insert should help here. At that point I'm at the end of the line for mods to that table. Then I get the AT or perhaps a Denon 103R. Now we might be rocking, a bit more resolution than I had previously, yet not enough to expose all the warts.
jaybo
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the AT is actually one of the best carts out there...even if you compare it to mc's 1500 range. i would be the first to admit it outperforms and rocks better than most..and yes that includes the exotic handmade stuff from europe and japan. no warts either. i have collected over a half dozen decent to great carts over the last 2 decades and actually have 2 of the AT's just in case they pull the plug on it.
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sbank
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Sns,

You've might already tried this, but VPI recommends setting vtf all the way or even a bit beyond the heavy end of the manufacturers suggested range. I find this helps in bottom end and dynamics.

Also, if you don't have a ringclamp, and have a chance to try one out, give it a shot. Besides rendering warps as a non-issue, it really helps give rock records jump factor.

VPI's house sound has been accused of "big, brawny American brashness" that runs counter to what you seem to be describing. That makes me think you certainly can lick the problems you're having. FWIW, w/my VPI, I get good dynamics on rock lps, and soundstage that is wall-to-wall and through the back wall. Hang in there. Cheers,
Spencer
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