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vpi scoutmaster versus technics unbiased

Anyone heard both the vpi scoutmaster and the technics mk5g not the earlier versions and preferably with tonerarm dampen kit to tell me whether there is big difference in sonics. Lets assume no sds or clamp with vpi but newer tonearm. phonostage is dartzeel preamp and amp is dartzeel as well. by the way i am happy with the technics mk5g that I have but wondering whether the scoutmaster with my existing benz ace low output cartridge would have a lower noisefloor or what would the benefits necessarily be. I listen to jazz and rock. If you sneer at direct drive then at least admit it so I am aware of the bias.

thanks

mike

thanks

mike
radioheadokplayer
radioheadokplayer OP
181 posts
 
Tvad,

I will contact him but do not believe he has setup or used the tt so might not want to lose its unused tag for me....plus if he does not know how, i doubt he wants me to fuss about with the tonearm setup of the scoutmaster....

Lwerner,

The technics is used by djs everwhere and has sold lot more tts than even vpi.....not sure they would have a glaring emi issue with their tt they have built for 30 years!!!!

I have no tv, phone, or other devices in room other than cd player, preamp, amp, speaker
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radioheadokplayer OP
181 posts
 
I should also add if emi was a problem with this tt, it would be consistently present on albums and not varying from record to record.....

I like the technics so dont want to get on the upgrade treadmill unless the difference is big!
radioheadokplayer OP
181 posts
 
well tvad you are right it is like opening pandora's box and i do like the technics so doubt I will do anything for now. If the guy selling in la had it setup and broken in I would certainly listen to it
johnnyb53
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07-23-08: Lwerner
Is not the entire platter part of "the direct drive" motor?, Hence, an awful lot of EMI (electro magnetic interference) swimming around that platter, Oh so close to that expensive magnetic cartridge? You decide.
One belt, motor on seperate plinth, free at last! free at last!
Typical audiophile-approved dogma with speculated theory but no substantiation. You have to pay between $3-5K to get a belt drive TT with as low an S/N, weighted or unweighted, as a $500 Technics SL12x0.

Every drive system has its strengths and weaknesses. What about the hysteresis inherent in a flexible belt drive system, or the side pull on the rotor bearing? You can sit in an armchair and point out design disadvantages in anything, but it is the implementation, not the design theory, that ultimately determines if something works well or not.

The EMI thing didn't put off Goldmund, Grand Prix, Teres, and some other direct drive entries in the high end.
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