Doug Decan I think there is a new ZYX 4D cartridge

I did not mention any brand and/or model.

Had I done so, a disclosure would have been included.

Nice try.

Concerning my first post let me correct any misunderstanding as my wording was poor. The first paragraph should have read:

"Having owned two Universes, IMO there are a number of top flight cartridges that will meet or exceed it with regards to the timing issue Doug mentioned".

Sorry I was unclear.

I'm sure once you get up in that neighborhood (as R. DeNiro would say "A very respectable neighborhood"), I'm sure all TOTL Cartridges from Lyra, Benz, Koetsu, Dynavector, Transfiguration, etc, are all breathtaking, and offer truly impeccable sound to say the least, and as you say Bill, it ultimately comes down to personal taste, and system synergy.

Not wishing to steer this thread in a different direction, I still have a simple question in regards to some Cartridges, namely the ZYX.

I've probably read every post in this forum about Cartridges from A-Z, and I have read mention about some, (or all of ZYX Cartridges being "Phase Inverted"?
What exactly does this mean in layman's terms? I'm assuming it doesn't mean hooking Headshell Leads differently-incorrectly than how they supposed to be, but I'll let those who are more knowledgeable enlighten me. Thank you! Mark

I think, the reality is a bit different. SORAsound made Zyx famous, mainly with the UNIverse. The main "problem" was (and is) that he sells them direct, without a dealer rate.
Lots of Users had a very interesting experience when they compared their 12k+++++$ cartridges with that one and got a result which showed what is really out there (overpriced average cartridges, pushed via Marketing, not via Performance).
The UNIverse is a special US cartridge, the 4D is available everywhere through dealerships ... of course "they" say it is the best ... what do you expect? The truth?
SORAsound doesn't give review samples, when someone wants to have it, he has to pay for, like everyone else.
That is another "problem" ....anyway, normally the UNIverse is a 8.5k cartridge and you can have it for 50%. New.
That's good news, I always wanted to buy a Koetsu for 12k, but in Japan I can get them for 1/3....no, i don't trust them, too cheap .... :)

Thomas,
When you are the sole supplier of a proprietary product the MSRP, in this case $8.5K, is a meaningless figure and totally unrelated to the actual selling price.