MoFi enzyme based cleaner and pure rinse


I must admit, I am a little disappointed given the buzz surrounding enzyme based cleaners. In this first foray into them I have not gotten results that I would call monumental.

Maybe I am doing something wrong. I have found it to reduce some of the noise floor, but not dirty pop/click grunge sounds. I have tried it on about 5 LPs and have found that it is really not working any better than VPI cleaner thus far.

And yes, I do use dedicated brushes for each stage and I clean the vacuum tube of my VPI 16 well after each application.

Opinions?
chashmal
Which ever level of Lp care and attention you choose Lloyd Walker's cleaning method involves more steps then most.

The price alone for the complete kit IS expensive and use of it IS time consuming.
These fact's along with comment's by end user's like myself have lead some to speculate on this formulas ingredients and overall effectiveness compared to what they use....

I find Walker's method the very best that I have ever used in the past 25 plus years.
The recent addition of the Step 4 rinse completes this product IMO.

Well worth the time, expense and a no brain er with a full refund guaranty attached to the sale....
I use the enzyme based cleaner for LPs that are new (for mold release), used (with finger prints/mold. I scrub by hand using a MoFi brush and let the fluid sit for 4-5 minutes. Next I rinse with MoFi final rinse and then on to my NG 2.5Fi cleaner. Great results each and every time.
Miner42: You use MoFi enzyme first, and then MoFi rinse, and nothing in between? I was interested by the statement above that an alcohol stage to denature the enzymes is helpful. What do you think of that?
Chasmal,

How long are you letting the MoFI enzyme solution sit and work in the grooves? Most LP's need at least 4 minutes of soaking, enough fluid to not dry out and occasional brushing to distribute fresh fluid around. Longer than 4 minutes wouldn't hurt, especially on stubborn/filthy records.

That said, it's possible these records are just trashed beyond any cleaning. A record played dirty many times **cannot** be salvaged by cleaning. Damaged vinyl cannot be cleaned back into shape.

We're apparently among the few (only?) who've directly compared MoFi enzyme + rinse with the AIVS fluids. FWIW, we ended up choosing both! We use AIVS Enzymatic, Super Cleaner and Premium Archivist (in that order) followed by two final rinses of MoFi pure water. Not a huge difference either way and nothing that would explain your frustration, but this regimen gives us our best results. Haven't tried the Walker yet. So many fluids, so little time...
Thank you for your input Doug.

Yes, I let the enzyme sit for at least 4 minutes. However the later case you stated might be the issue. I am not dealing with truly trashed LPs, as they appear to the eye to be mint. However they might have been played dirty many many times, as you stated.

I have also cleaned some sealed LPs which, when opened, sounded dirty and maybe always will. This is the case with a sealed copy of Paul Jacobs playing the Schoenberg solo piano pieces (which I payed far far too much for). As you might know, these pieces have a lot of silence in them, and thus LP quietude is really needed. The LP is a Nonesuch, and I have noticed that many Nonesuch pressings sound a bit dirty. However I have goten decent results with the VPI fluid on them, but I have a few that are just stubborn.