Antiskating .... The last analog secret



excellent condition
hardly used


no, I didn't do that :)

I think, there is a difference between Antiskating and the right Antiskating.
Calibration with a blank surface is not always the 100% solution.
What do you think?
thomasheisig
Nsgarch, I've always thought the line contact styli have a greater contact area than the elliptical ones. Greater contact area means more friction (although the pressure/area unit is less).
Dazz, sometimes Physics can be maddeningly counter-intuitive, can't it?! The amount of skating force produced is directly proportional to the friction developed between the stylus and the vinyl. Since the contact area of a conical/elliptical stylus is essentially zero, the VTF divided by zero = infinity. Therefore the skating force (in theory ;-) should also be infinity (which it isn't ;-) but the psi is still much higher than that of a line-contact stylus, which 'spreads' the VTF over a calculable area.

In addition to the contact-area-vs-friction issue is this point: assuming the SRA is properly set http://forum.audiogon.com/cgi-bin/fr.pl?eanlg&1140840022&openmine&Nsgarch&4&5&st0 a line-contact stylus will 'lock' into the groove for effortless (in theory ;-) tracing. Conical and elliptical styli kind of 'skip across the high points' of the groove modulations (I'm exaggerating for illustration ;-) which adds additional friction.

If you ever have a chance to watch an earlier model Shure MM cartridge (like a V-15 Type II) and see how much the cantilever deflects, even at one gram VTF, you'll understand where the AS = VTF standard came from.

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I think, this thread is essential for every analog enthusiast.
All of us want to do the things right, but it can go a frustrating route.
Antiskate is such a miracle. Lots of test records out there, but in a way they can be useless. This cartridge is a proof for trying to do it right and it went wrong. The side force can be very strong and when the cart. is new, the suspension is soft and sensitive. After some months it will deform and the story is over.
What amazed me, when I saw the cartridge is that excessive cantilever tilt...

This cartridge is on the way back to the manufacturer for a complete rebuild.
I have found that not only is correct anti-skate an illusive quest, but also the mechanism that operates this anti-skate device resonates, adds unnecessary friction, etc.
Hevac,
If all looks to be good with your cartridge and AS mechanism.
I would go over set up again of your arm and cartridge.

Myself and other's here found the MintLp arc protractor to do the trick.
MintLp.com

Then follow Doug Deacon's lead if you like.
Here is a method for setting Anti-Skate.This is of interest here I think."Anti skate is best set visually, not with the dial on the tonearm. This because of the large variation in groove friction developed by different stylus shapes and VTA settings. Watch the cantilever very carefully from the front of the headshell (use strong light) as you lower the stylus into a groove in the middle of the first band on the record. If the cantilever deflects to the right when the stylus hits the groove, increase the antiskate until the cantilever remains in the same position (relative to the front of the cartridge body) in or out of the groove. (If it deflects to the left, reduce the anti skate force.)It takes a little practice, but gets you very close to perfect with the rest easy to do by ear."