How is it ? that a tuner smokes the table ???


"(cats out of the bag)"

my friends dynalab 109 tube tuner blows away his turntable front end that costs 4X as much!!!

Can any one explain how a cd or analog turntable at a radio station gets played and sent thru the air and gets
reconstructed at the tuner is the single highest quality
source in hiend two channel reproduction !

that blows me away and I can understand it ?

IMHO tuner highest source than turntable than CD in that order.

I wish somebody told me this before I spend so much money !

what sayest thou ?
jimpcn
Many of these comments seem to be based on the assumption that "there's no way that a radio station's gear is better than mine" . . . pure audiophile snobbery. I agree that the vast, vast majority of FM stations sound like pure dog-crap. But it's because of choice, they don't need to . . .

First, a good FM station has an engineer that oversees the maintaince of all the equipment, and performs regular performance tests of the entire chain. Many of these people are extraordinarily talented and knowledegable from a technical standpoint, and take enormous pride in their work. Most of them I've known do it because they're passionate about radio, NOT because there's good money in it. Which there isn't.

Second, the processing devices that most FM stations use as part of their "air chain" are amazingly powerful and precise instruments -- and usually set up in such a way as to completely destroy the sound quality. But occasionally, they're set up and adjusted by an engineer that really cares about sound quality, and they can REALLY sound very nice. These are frequently stations at the bottom of the dial, many times with engineers that are donating much of their time to support their local college or community station.

Third, I've experienced a LOT of broadcast gear that simply sounds GREAT. Fond memories are of an old Ampro console chocked-full of precision transformers and rotary stepped attenuators, heavy Broadcast Electronics turntables with SME III tonearms and Ortofon integrated armwand/cartridges, the Gates TE-3 stereo exciter, and the fabulous Orban Optimod 8100A compressor/processor. All of this gear is designed to last for many decades, under harsh conditions (environmental AND electrical), and have virtually zero downtime. To meet these goals, most of this equipment uses conservatively-rated, high-quality parts that are extremely rare in high-end audio.

And finally, there exists quite a bit of potential accuracy of the FM signal chain itself. I remember making a typical 2AM audio performance check through the entire chain (console, studio-to-transmitter links with dbx noise reduction, Optimod, composite generator, exciter, transmitter, and broadcast monitor) and routinely getting frequency response of +/- 0.5dB from 30 to 15,000, with S/N ratio of about -55dB relative to 100% modulation, and 40dB-ish channel separation. WAY better than ANY phono cartridge. And the nice thing about FM is that once a signal is strong enough to be "full-quieting", the only thing that degrades this performance is multipath, and the quality of the tuner.
Kirkus,

Thanks for that!

I think you hit it. Talented engineers on the back end that care make all the difference in radio.

But, if one's radio sound BETTER than ones's phono or digital, then that is probably a good indicator that a few tweaks to the system might be made to better the sound from your local sources in your system.
Please tell us more about the components in the vinyl chain. That would help me understand what you are comparing the tuner with, and I do know how good an FM tuner can sound.

"The tuner sounds similiar but has more dynamics and colorations, but is intimate, and just sounds damn good."

This describes 90% of the audio equipment out there, but doesn't tell me a damn thing.
"The tuner sounds similiar but has more dynamics and colorations, but is intimate, and just sounds damn good."

Sounds like your radio station is using a Lenco!

Bob
I own a MD108 and it amazes me since the day I got it. Don't ask me why, but it sounds better than most analog and digital combos I listened to.
Some time ago I listened to a Streisand Concert (no limiters) and I was VERY impressed. Even when a Radio Station works from Harddisk with limiters I can hear how good the CD from the artist is (or not). This Tuner (and the Basis Turntable ) survived every change in my system for years now.