Tables That Feature Bearing Friction


I recently had the opportunity to audition the DPS turntable which, unlike most tables, has a certain amount of friction designed into the bearing. This, when paired with a high quality/high torque motor, is said to allow for greater speed stability--sort of like shifting to a lower gear when driving down a steep hill and allowing the engine to provide some breaking effect and thus greater vehicular stability. I am intrigued by this idea and was wondering what other people thought about this design approach. Are there other tables which use this bearing principal? One concern I have is that by introducing friction you may also be introducing noise. Comments?
dodgealum
The build material subject could grow-up in complexity if we add that we must take in count that maybe we need different build materials for different TT parts and that each one of those build materials have to have a constant " behavior " under any " normal " TT operation condition forming a " synergy TT system ".

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear friends: We are in a so imperfect home analog sound reproduction world with so low know-how that instead to use our main each day time to hear and enjoy music we are " loosing " our precious life time trying to correct that imperfect world that is full of imperfect hardware.

That's why exist so many forums everywhere. Take how many are here in Agon: more than ten!!!! and in almost everyone we are talking/asking to a better hardware, to a better up-dates in hardware, to a better tweaks, to a better, to a better....etc, etc and what about the main target: music sound reproduction and the " emotion " to enjoy it.

In a perfect world all those audio forums will change for a one and only: the music forum.

It is so imperfect that for some of us don't pass any single day where we don't " touch " the system hardware trying to improve even for some of us don't pass a single hour where we stay " calm/in-active ", name it like you want: changing VTA, VTF, load impedance, cables, speaker position, room treatment, new mat, rolling tubes, changing caps/resistors/inductors, new record cleaning solutions, DIY items, new clamping system, new belts, new or different something everywhere at each link in the whole audio chain.

A lot of fun but a misery on the time hearing music where we are not thinking how to improve but only enjoying that music sound reproduction.

Well such is world: nothing is perfect.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.
Dear friends: We are in a so imperfect home analog sound reproduction world with so low know-how that instead to use our main each day time to hear and enjoy music we are " loosing " our precious life time trying to correct that imperfect world that is full of imperfect hardware.
Rauliruegas (System | Threads | Answers)

Well said, now if you'll excuse me, I'm going to listen to some music for a few hours. Thanks for the inspiration Raul.
Out-of-center record hole. An important point. Still on holiday, but just a short note:
I solved that problem in my earlier design in 1992. Not with a complex motorized approach as Nakamichi did, but with a total mechanic approach - very simple and very effective. Everybody will find the solution himself following one simple hint:

- do decrease the diameter of the center spindle from approx. 7 mm to say 3-4 mm.

Now you have the option to adapt, with a small set of very simple - you can most likely even make it yourself at home - devices, to any excentricity of any given LP.
I will leave it to our "professional" TT designers to pick up the idea. Maybe the "german fraction" will find the solution in older reports about my old design. It was featured there.
Dear Dertonarm: I'm thinking in an automatic solution ( like the Nakamichi one, I don't mean the same. ) but I can see that will be not only complex/expensive but with some trade-offs on the whole TT performance so the manual/mechanic one could/can be a good alternative in the mid-time ( maybe the one that works with almost no compromise other that the customer has to do it, but the customer ( through a jig ) has to make too in manual way the tonearm instalation so that will be not " big deal ". ) waiting for an automatic self-design TT ( we have the right to dream about. ): it is an interesting challenge.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.