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As I can see there are none that want to share his thoughts on the different subjects, maybe is not important for other than me.

Anyway I will follow " alone ".

Mybe I'm wrong but I think that things ould and can be better if each ( any ) link audio item in the audio chain will be more " friendly " against the other links, I mean that the audio item manufacturers could take in count the environment ( audio chain ) where its product will work and how that product can works in better synergy with that audio chain environment.
This " friendly " attitude help to perform better to each audio item in the audio chain: each audio item will be more " strong" as the other ones are " strong " in that audio chain.

Sometimes seems to me that some audio items were designed and manufactured like if them goes to work in an aisle environment taking no care of what surrounded it. I think that this un-friendly " attitude " goes against the whole quality performance.
Maybe could help if in someway some " institution/audio industry association " could define a minimum audio industry "sandards " in the more critical areas/stages/links to warranty a minimum synergy/friendly between audio components.

Today is almost an anarchy that don't help to anyone in the audio industry, IMHO we need a minimum of " order ".

Which are the " subjects/factors" that can impede that happen? do you think that could help us? am I totally wrong?

Your thoughts ( any ) are appreciated.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

the fun in our " hobby " must be the MUSIC enjoy and not the endless quest of tweaks.

Of course. But you can enjoy music via MP3, too
The normal Audiophile wants to have a "better" reproduction and is willing to pay for it. Unfortunately, money alone is not enough today. Marketing and"I can hear better than you" or the "...he has money, but no idea about music ..." influences every decision...not easy. Would a electronic Standard help? Don't know, when I listen to Denon or Kenwood or Accuphase, I can say, all got the Standards but I am not in the reproduction....

25 years ago, there was an audiophile community which was able to afford anything (was not part of it, I was too young) and they really knew what was good or not. They created a High End Magazine, knew all Manufacturers and wanted to give a Demo in the High End show to show the customers how they listen to Music and how they rate the "reproduction". Long Story short, they were ready to give a demo with their own components...
Before this was done they made a Pre-Demo and invited some top Manufacturers to listen... the result was depressing....they have been asked not to do that, when customers will "hear" that, they can't sell their units....
It was cancelled.
The customer wants not "only good sound", he wants more, a good "test", a "Hype", something "exclusive", something"expensive, no more expensive" etc. etc. etc.
And then we should not forget those, who are not among the Genius in this world, but they want to survive too. And to make a little money (or a bit more :))
Sometimes I am a bit sad, because I think, the Know How is existing, but this is not enough today. Having success is not based on this, it is based on Marketing mechanism (Profit, Sales, Ads, Promotion....)

On the other side, what would happen, when a Designer would be able to create a definitive unit for 8K consumer price?
For a few this would be too cheap to be good....or a piece of wood on a string for 6k, yes, this would work....

Syntax, I think the electronic standard is probably best simplified, at a minimum, to mean making input and output impedances fall within a certain range for every component downstream of the amp's inputs, and making source component output voltages within a certain range. Trying to get speaker mfrs to all provide a flat frequency response curve and impedance curve, and to all jump on the 'power paradigm' is kind of a lost cause.

As to your other point that customers want more than just 'good sound' (they want a certain look, cachet, convenience, hype, or exclusivity), I am convinced it is true, which is why having a designer create a "definitive" component is effectively a lost cause too.

OTOH, I have some really great pieces of wood on a string (limited edition (exlusivity), coming in their own signed paulownia box (cachet - looks), which I am certain will be popular (hyped) after the first few people buy them, which I can sell for even less than $6k, shipping included (convenience). Inquire within :^)

There are some little " things " that can help if we take it like " standards ".
If we take the phono cartridge like an example we could ask for: same horizontal distance between stylus and center cartridge mount holes, this simple " standard " could permit to mount the cartridge and forget about overhang ( with different cartridges ) because the tonearm manufacturers with that distance " standard " their tonearm headshell holes ( no slots. ) will comes at exactly the right position to set up in automatic way the overhang in any cartridge, this seems to me a " friendly " standard.

Other could be that the cartridge connection pins always be at the same position in relation to left/right ,+/- . One more that the stylus angle always be at the same angle, example: 20 degrees, not 17 or 23 degrees.

We can/ould take each audio item and think ( analize its relationship with the others. ) on " simple " things that can/could help in many ways.
It can help for example that the CDP's comes with the same output level.

It could help too if the tonearm arm board shape be the same/similar for all pivot tonearms.
For the people that own more than one TT ( different ones )it could help that the height position of the arm board in relation with the top of the platter will be a " standard " height.

T-bone " touch " the impedance subject that is very important and exist other" technical " areas where is important to fix standards. Btw, I think that all kind on " ideas " are welcome on the " standards " subject.

I think that are many subjects/factors where we can fix/define " standards " that will be help to anyone it does not matters what we customers/manufacturers have on " mind "/attitude: the " standards " serve to help to the whole audio industry, we are part of that audio industry.

The main subject is not only to make things more easy/friendly but to obtain better audio system each link synergy in favor of better quality performance.

With that kind of minimum " standards " the off-center record hole cancer will disappear and all of us will be really " happy " on it and we don't need to think in a mechanism to fix it.

IMHO there is no reasons why everything has to be so complicated when/where this complexity goes almost always against the quality performance of our home system reproduction.

Regards and enjoy the music.
Raul.

Dear T_bone, I totally agree with Syntax and you. For the love of music - we do not need high end gear at all to appreciate music.
Beethoven string quartet op 132 will have its impact via an MP3 player or the car stereo as well as via a million dollar high-end set-up.
High-end is a nice playground to satisfy the longing of man for something absolute and gives us a microcosmos where each and everyone can produce his/(seldom...) her own dogma of something "best" in every subjective way possible. Today high-end is sold not only via sound - it is sold much more via the price tag (ask any high-end dealer in HongKong or some of the manufacturers of rather elusive components that they do not sell less when the lift up the price, but more) and the image related to it.
This is a very strange part of the luxury market.
Its not about quality - its about image, "face" and "show off".

All we need to simplify high-end is adapting some of the standards from the professional audio segment or PA. Matching impedance (600 Ohms for instance..) would make most super high-end cables and their effect null and void. But honestly - none of you would like to listen to a speaker with flat frequency response curve ..........

Flat impedance curve and easy load would eliminate in one moment 85% of all high-end speakers. Expect low power consumption and the next 10% will be gone for good.

We should accept High-end audio the way it is - a childrens playground.

The difference between the boys and the men??
The price tag on the toys.
Nothing else.