Nude Turntable Project


I could not fit the whole story in this Forum so have had to add it to my System Page.
I am attempting to hear if a 'naked' DD turntable can sound as good as Raul claims.
Please click the link below to read the story.
NUDE TT81
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09-21-13: Lewm
The Verdier is NOT "nude" by the original definition put forth by Halcro after Raul. (Please go back to the beginning of this thread.) Nude means or is a synonym for "no plinth". No plinth means that those who adopted the approach mounted their tt chassis' on "feet", most typically the AT616 feet, with no physical union except gravity between feet and chassis.

Of course with the "nude" approach, the shelf is the plinth, as both the TT and armpod are coupled to it, unless the feet are levitating, or you are reinventing the English language.

Furthermore Halcro's Victor motor & platter are bolted to a flimsy chassis adorned with copious electronic boards and transformers, which, in turn are attached to the new stainless steel frame.

One could argue that the flimsy chassis or the chassis and frame is the plinth in this instance.

Ironically the Verdier ( and Micro's,Melco's & Final Audio) are more naked than the pseudo nude Victor because they are not mounted in a flimsy chassis and are not adorned with electronics and other unnecessary paraphernalia.

Therefore I suggest you have misappropriated the use of the word "nude", and should find a more appropriate word to describe the not so nude Victor.
I am very reluctant to say this or whatever in the presence of Lew and Dover who are known as critical minds. In particular regarding the opinions of others. But if I remember well (not easy at my age) by the first DD TT's this, uh, 'magnetic matter' was immediately mentioned with warning for the use of the MC carts in conjunction with them. One of the reasons for me , except being the best TT ever, to buy the LP-12 then. Strange that after so many years this 'magnetic matter' is again reinvented or rather re-introduced.
Regards,
Dover, Whom are you addressing? If you are addressing me, then I was only referencing the definition of "nude" back to the beginning of this thread, whether you like the idea of nudity or not, in a turntable. Please recall that I was not a proponent of the approach at all, and still I am not. I agree that the definition has blurred in the course of 8 pages of posts.

Over about the last 25 years, a trend in the design of belt-drive turntables developed according to which the platter is mounted on a cylindrical plinth that is of about the same diameter as the platter, such that there is no rectangular "deck" area in the plane of the platter. Rather, the tonearm(s) are mounted outboard via structurally rigid supports that are anchored firmly to the heavy cylindrical plinth structure. It was my empirical observation that this idea is a good one. However, it is far from consonant with the concept of the "nude" turntable, set forth on page 1 of this thread. Actually, you and I do not disagree. I can live without the lectures. Thanks.
Hi Henry

I am now going fishing Henry. I will be using a Cordell CC Shad Green/Yellow to see if I can snag a lake trout

This pic is only a few days old

The hit was real.
The fight with 4lb pound line was real.
The landing and pics are real.
The emotional rush of - letting it go - was real.
Music gives me a similar rush. corny ? yah... but true.
Not a laker but only the 4th rainbow trout ever caught in this lake - must have come in as a baby from a smaller feeder lake.

another thought on the Verdier
Due to its low power requirements I intend to hook it up to my electric trolling motor battery once fishing season ends.
This way it gets used year round. I mean the battery not the TT. :^)

The new speaker project may delay things a bit but it will get done.

Continue to inspire.

Cheers