Vintage DD turntables. Are we living dangerously?

Lewm: "The fact that Denon and Technics stuck with cored motors does not necessarily mean they were "stubborn"."

Sorry, I did not mean to imply anything negative about Denon and Technics not using coreless motor. Perhaps the word "stubborn" was poorly chosen but was really intended to mean they did not follow the trend as they probably felt their DD development were mature enough to withstand the shifting trend. I know I like the sound of several Denon turntables, coreless or not. I know you like your DP-80. As for Technics, let me just say I am off the bandwagon.... but that's a different topic.

Lewm: "does anyone know about the Grand Prix Monaco, the NVS, or the Teres Certus? For that matter, what about the Brinnkmann Oasis?"

The only info on the Monaco I can find is from 6moons.com that says "The finalized Monaco turntable runs off a 5-8V 12-pole DC motor inside the main chassis." No indication that is coreless or not.

No idea what the NVS uses.

The Teres Certus uses a CORE motor from pictures I have seen of its innards.

The Brinkmann Oasis is the same as the Bardo, except it has a plinth. The Bardo is the stripped down version of the Oasis for a lower price.

Motors are fascinating indeed!

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Lewm: "If you read about Kenwood's thinking in the design of the L07D, they actually did not favor high torque in principle. So they were not concerned with competing in that "horsepower" race."

I think I agree with that thinking and from the sound of many DD turntables with coreless motors it only confirms that. I much rather have a smoother rotation than just high torque. Judging by the reviews of the Brinkmann Bardo, a low torque design, they are onto something and the impression is that the Bardo does not have the stereotypical sterile sound related to DD tables.

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Ah Radicalsteve,
The luxury of two TT-101s ?:^)
Interesting comments on the two metal mats.
I assume you are thus using no damping on the aluminium platter?
Can you describe the differences in sound you hear with these mats over the standard rubber?
Would be appreciated?

Thanks for those images Hiho...and all the informative comments.
Regards
Henry

Oops, the posted image of the PS-X7 motor was supposed to be PS-X9, Sony's flagship. Sorry for the error.

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