Audio Technica AT-33PTG vs Denon 103R cartridge


Hi Folks, These are top rated carts on Vinyl Engine, and I through I would ask A-Goners. The AT is about $200 more than the 103R. Anyone have experience with the two? Is the AT worth the extra money (40% more!)

BTW, I will be using this with an MMF 5.1 table, Music Hall MM/MC Phono stage, Jolida 501 integrated tube amp, and my venerable Celestion Ditton 66 speakers.
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Stanwal: The 33PTG has different (better) cantilever and stylus than the EV = better sound. Built like a Bently too.

Schubert: I understand what you mean, though IMO the AT33PTG sounds REALLY good playing anything. The 103(R) is limited to "rocking out" due to lack of finesse
I agree with Doak's comment that the 103R lacks finesse. That in a nutshell is my main objection to it. I haven't heard the 33PTG, but I am quite familiar with the 33EV and it is a really good cartridge by any measure. It's also an amazing bargain.
Have any of you PTG users compared the series I to the II?
Both appear to be still available online - with the series 1 cheaper.
While compliance appears the same (and highish for an MC) - the PTG series II is lower output than the PTG series I - 0.3 vs 0.5mV - and correspondingly lower resistance/inductance (from less windings one presumes).
All things being equal, lower output versions often tend to have a more pure/immediate sound.
What have users found?
Tobes: Yep, the Series II is a bit of a different animal. I haven't heard it. The coil resistance is different too - 17 ohm for the Series I vs. 10 ohm for the series II. This too could affect how well they match with various phono preamps/and SUTs.

I can say that I've been through 3 AT33PTG using a modded EAR 834P -- stock SUT - and IMO it's a marriage made in heaven. :-0

Doak