From high end digital to beginners analog?


My son, who basically listens to mp3/ipod, bought a cheap turntable recently for his low end bedroom system. This intrigued me and greatly amused his friends! I have been thinking about a trying a relatively cheap turntable and phono stage for a few years now. Have not had one in 20 years.
Will a $2k to $4k turntable plus phono, new or used, be a waste in comparison to modern high end digital?
Has anyone had a recent dabble like this, and what where the results?
mike60
Hi Mike,

I will be getting a TT as well in the near future, having abandoned anolog once the cd came in years ago.I can say my TT back in the day was nothing speacial, a Thornes td 350.

I have heard what a good TT sounds like and think it out rates digital ,imho.I started buying records a few months ago to have a collection when I do get a TT.

I would say even if you have no records , take the leap. I did hear a the new Oracle Paris TT which comes with it's own phono stage, arm and cartridge that already come set up from the factory. I heard this at the recent Taves show in Toronto and had a chace to talk to the owner of the company as well. You can use the Delphi 6 power supply on the Paris as well to upgrade the power supply from the satandard one which comes with the Paris.

There are many great TT's out there. This is just a suggestion.
I would agree 100% with Unsound, IF we were not considering "high end" digital.
Dear Mike60: Mapman posted: ++++ " If you have the records to play and the desire to play them.... " ++++ and I would like to add " if you have enough records... " +++++

then the only way to hear it is through and analog rig but from here to " better than digital, especially HiRes " you will be dissapointed: digital HiRes is better for very good reasons.

I'm in analog/LPs because I own 6K+ LPs where many of them are not on digital HiRes ( DVDA. ) or the digital transfer was very poor.

The LP source IMHO is probably the most imperfect alternative to reproduce music but is the one where I'm accustom to for many many years. Inside the LP alternative the music signal pass for so many stages during recording and playback that is almost incredible we can hear what we hear against a digital signal that is almost untouched.

If I was a person with out enough LPs and with a digital HiRes decent rig I never even think to go analog other than per curiosity.

Other important subject is that digital is a " plug and play " alternative where analog/LPs certainly is not but something that needs deep training, patience, patience and more patience along knowledge/skills and tools. Dougdeacon as many other analog/LP advocates as me knew what I'm talking about because when Dougdeacon said: ++++ " Doing vinyl well provides certain satisfactions that even the best digital doesn't offer... " ++++ he knew that to attain that quality performance level your quality performance skills most be " deep way deep ".

Nothing is at random with analog/LP playback, even the room temperature is important to.

Regards and enjoy the music,
R.
Hello Mike60, I got back into vinyl a few years back after a 20 year hiatus. I had saved my 2000 records from my past. It was the best move I made in my audio experience. For some reason, for me, the connection to the music is much better.

How are you listening to digital? What equipment are you using for comparison?

If you want a good plug and play unit it your price range I would look at the Well Tempered Amadeus mentioned above. Mount the cartridge of your choice and drop the needle. I have never heard anyone criticize its sound. There are many good choices in turntables at that price but you have to have that love of tweaking to get it right. To me its fun, to others a pain.

Danny





If I were putting together a system to "try out" analog vs cd I would stsrt with a very basic TT like a technics or similar used with arm. Find a good MM cart that matches the arm and a good pre that matches the cart. Then you will need to set it up properly. That would give you a good taste for whether vinyl is worth the hassle to you. I have a very "high end" system and one as just described. I can listen to the lower cost system for hours and in most cases find the sound preferable to red book cd. The most important part as in all things audio is good mating of the components. Read all the forums there is a lot to learn about analog set up.