Lyra Erodion vs Ypsilon MC16 for Lyra Kleos

Well, for whatever it's worth, Fremer thinks the Ypsilon SUTs are by far the best he's ever heard. I don't have the Stereophile issue in front of me right now, but he gave it a pretty thorough review and comparison with other highly regarded SUTs a few issues back. So you probably can't go wrong with the Ypsilon.

I heard the older Lyra Arion and was not particularly impressed by it when using with Air Tight or Dynavector. However, my local dealer mentioned that Lyra SUT works extremely well with Lyra cartridge but perhaps, not so well with other, whatever that is supposed to mean.

If I remember Fremer's review of Ypsilon pre phono accurately, I think he did say that Ypsilon phono, when used with Reikon SUT (not available separately from its phono), the performance went up another notch but MC-10 was not so far behind. I think someone on Audo Asylum mentioned that MF bought a couple of Ypsilon SUTs for his own use.

I agree that unless you get a killer SUT that would bring out the best in low output moving coils (read expensive), then a high output cartridge without the added SUT will ultimately give better sound.

Hmmm..., I change my mind a bit about Lyra SUT, at least the Arion. Just heard Arion with Lyra Atlas and it is an excellent combination. I have not compared it to other SUT yet but in the past, Arion just did not do anything for me with other cartridges. Different story this time with Lyra cartridge.