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TW Raven Owners: Set Up Questions

Through the magic of sweet talk, I turned my Orbe into a Raven and mounted my Graham 2.2/Benz LP.
I am looking for a isolation base for the Raven. I have a 1 3/8" piece of granite coming soon so I can ditch the MDF I use now (a temp. meas.!) Symposium, SRA, HRS, etc., can anyone share their experiences with isolation bases? I saw the thread about loosening the Stillpoints.
Initially I had an issue with using the rough side of belt. The belt shimmied up/down on the pulley at a specific spot on belt. Also, the speed fluctuated and I could never get it dialed in with the PSU. So, I went to the smooth side of the belt and then raising the back side of the motor (unscrewing one of the isolation feet) slightly moving the belt down from "center" on the pulley. This moved me from 33.2 to 33.3 and I have no more belt shimmying and the speed is rock solid.
I'd appreciate any tips/tricks etc.
gerardff
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sunnyboy1956
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When I was contemplating the upgrade from the AC 1 to the BN PSU cum motor unit, I sent a barrage of questions to Herr Woschnik and he was always courteous and prompt ( same day response). If you need the weight to design a wall shell or any other mounting arrangement , I reckon you should be OK with 70kgs, ie 10kg for the BN motor, 50 kg for the TW AC plinth+platter with a safety margin.
All the best
Pradeep
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Thanks for the information. It was really strange. Initially I sent eail Mr Woschnik and he answered within a couple of hours but without the actual AC-1 weight. I sent another email back to him and no answer now for 2 days. I think 50+ kg is more like it rather than 70 kg I saw in one review for AC-3. Now I found a local dealer for Minus K platform so I tried to figure outhte total load that I need. I understand that Minus K works best when you are closer to maximun load rather than being at the lower end of the range.
So I am looking at either 125BM-8 (40-59kg) or 150BM-8 (57-70kg). AC-1 definitely will fit 125BM-8 if the custom top (with larger surface area) does not add too much to the cost.
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whart
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I use an HRS platform for my table- a big Kuzma that weighs about 160lbs. It will not isolate footfalls from a springy floor (which required more work including isolating the big antique table on which the whole affair sits). I would have preferred a wall shelf, but that wasn't feasible and would have required some real re-engineering, both of shelf and of system layout. The Stillpoints do a great job in decoupling vibration, but they are not really meant to address more dramatic movement like floor flex/footfalls, right?
(I have some ultra SS under one component and like what they do sonically).
Finite Elemente made a big shelf for wall mounting, but it ain't cheap. (The Living Voice folks seem to use those if you can find pictures of their factory listening room).
lula
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The Raven One weighs 21 kgs according to the Highwater Sound website.
pcosta
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I owned a custom Minus K for close to four years. I sold it. I found the improvements too subtle to consitantly notice the differences. I sold it after I moved my system to a floor made of concrete compared to an upper floor I had my system in previously. SO unless you have serious floor issues I don't think it is worth it.
Another thing to take into consideration is how big a top you need for an AC-1 because with a Minus K needs to have the load in the center of the table for it to work properly. Having an outboard motor may not allow you enough room if the top is not much bigger than the table.
If you do go with a custom top don't get it from Minus K. It is just a sheet of Aluminum that they will over charge you for.
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