Analog vs Digital Confusion

Back to the original question-

If your total buget for an analog rig is $5k, meaning- turntable, tone arm, cartridge, phono stage and possibly a tone arm cable you may want to stick with a CDP if ultimate sound reproductive quality is your main objective.This is assuming your CDP is of reasonably high quality.

I listen almost exclusively to records, have a very well regarded and expensive CDP, and feel that you typically need to spend at LEAST three times the cost of your CDP for an analog rig that would best it. So, if you have a $5K CDP then you would need to invest $15K on all the above items to create an analog system which MAY better your digital. No guarantees it will, analog is a great deal more complicated than popping in a CD. It is, however, extremely rewarding when and if you get that turntable really singing.

Not trying to discourage a turntable purchase, just trying to address what you were asking for in your initial post.

I have never had an issue with pitch stability when using a TT.

As for vinyl v CD then as has been mentioned previously I think it is a preference thing.

I came to CD quite late and still have a largish vinyl collection so it made sense to invest in my analogue set up. My original experience with CD had always found me migrating back to vinyl.

More recently I have been able to improve on CD replay and this sounds very good now. If I had been able to achieve this level of reproduction before then I might not have pursued the analogue path quite so commitedly.

Starting from scratch with vinyl is quite daunting these days, there seems to be quite a premium attached to both 2nd hand and new vinyl LPs. I do buy some new vinyl but the majority of modern releases that interest me are only on CD.

On the equipment side, besides the TT and arm, one also needs to buy a phono stage and cartridge. Although there is a much wider choice of analogue gear now, to achieve
the best sound still requires quite an outlay.

Having a good CD set up means I am not solely reliant on the AP golden oldie re-releases etc, I have a lot of the originals anyway. I can buy newly recorded classical, jazz and world music on CD at a reasonable cost and enjoy listening to it all

So although I would not be without my TT to play my existing collection of rock, be bop, classical etc, it is nice to have the CD for newly purchased music.

The best sounding vinyl still outshine CD IMO but often CD runs the analogue very close. Everything is depended on the quality of the recording at the end of the day

Dctom,
Nice post, very thoughtful and sincere.
Regards,

Charles1dad
Thanks for the feedback, I now notice the typos!

Fbihifi
I agree with what you have said about bettering CD, the pursuit of high quality analogue sound is quite a mission.

Whart
I think you are of a similar vintage to myself.
I concur with the buzz you get from discovering how good, "unplayed for decades," records sound.
You also mention getting hold of 2nd hand LPs which can also be hidden gems when cleaned. I have some great 2nd hand 70s Pablo albums which sound very fresh and dynamic.

I have recently been experimenting with using a 6 ltr ultrasonic tank prior to using my VPI RCM. It seems to work very well, Kraftwerk are currently vibrating the furniture in a way I don't remember almost 40 yrs ago played on a Garrard 401.

Frogman's comment
on pitch stability is a crucial point,ask any musician or singer with perfect pitch and they will tell you exact pitch is the foundation or heart of music.
Frogman your comment on turntables ,I agree
with analog play back a good direct drive over comes stylus drag more so then most, but not all belt / thread drives , yet another problem with analog play back components.

Early digital was horrible however digital pitch stability was a decisive factor even though to me play back is cold and uninviting even today.

One of many problems with analog play back is off centre spindle hole in the record, pitch is enormously effected especially stands out with piano where us that don't have perfect pitch readily pick up on it right away.

To hear that favorite vintage Lp with a off centered spindle hole centered corrected by a Nakamichi TX-1000 turntable is a real eye opener, thank you once again Gary if you read this.
Now if someone could re-engineer that 1980s product ,Centre-A-Disk I would have the patience to use it.