Brinkmann vs TW Acustic

Yes i'm sure you hear a pretty sound from your TW AC however my extended experience with my TW-AC2 was not a happy one.
Responding to a similar question a few years ago caused an exchange of private messages from happy TW owner that started out civil though ended with these happy TW members calling me names. Oh well, not so unusual I guess with "certain types".
My experience with this $17,000.00 table showed problems more so with play back of select vintage Lps.
I'm sure all is fine with Classic Rock, Pop and some of the modern re-issues of today, however.

My memory of the AC, play back was everything under glass, a lack of interplay , rhythmically compressed, no pulse and so on.
Like a cook that follows a recipe exactly though really has no feel or real passion to pull the dish off , it always turns out bland.
Why ?,,,, a table only supports the platter and tone arm with a motor to spin the record, how can this have so much influence on what I hear?
There are said many stated happy TW owners,as it turned out it reallly tells me nothing about the product itself, like movie box office receipts it says nothing of the movie itself.
For the price and level of performance I say no.

Pani, another thing about music and music reproduction is the sense that the sound source is something vibrating/resonating. A real thing. For example on an acoustic guitar after being struck the strings vibrate and the body of the guitar resonates along with the strings.

The thing about listening to vinyl that I love is that on decent to excellent recordings there is always that sense something is vibrating/resonating - musical instruments. And on good recordings it is instruments in space.

In contrast, red book CD does not give me that some sense.

That is not to minimize prat in any way. The goal for me is to have as much of everything that I can get and just enjoy the music that is there.

Dev,

The latest battery PS holds charge for about 20 hours. Also, it can lock on 33.33 exactly. And it is audible. I have compared Tito the earlier version,and have owned several version softie motor controllers. It is a significant leap forward.

As for the bass, until my table was completely isolated I would agree that the bass was boomy. But my isolation platform once tuned correctly,(which needed to be changed between the AC & BN) elevates the tables to another level. I am fairly dismissive of most of what people say when it comes to bass until the table is fully isolated. And that applies to all tables. Isolation needs tuning or else it will backfire. You need to have it calculated for the weight of the turntable. Using weight ballasts etc help.

I find the difference between a good turntable and a great oneis the isolation. I can knock on my table gently and it won't be heard. Also I can play music very loud and nothing. Just music. Prior to the isolation it was a different story. Every one has their own rooms to consider.

As for the belt & pulley comments, Dev I just don't see it. We traded mails but if I saw what you are going on aboutI would agree. To me the superiority of the BN is how quiet it is. I know you purchased some isolation platform but maybe it wasn't set up correctly. Mine is dead silent. Home made but it works. I know vibraplanes that don't do as good a job. Mind you a few good friends won't listen to their turntables (non TW) if their vibraplanes aren't working - they each had a flat at one time.

I hate headers that use vs.
This is a hobby not a football or basketball game(although some use these forums for a great debate)
Whats next,Vanilla vs.Chocolate?
Blondes vs.Brunettes?
In this hobby everything is subjective.Therefore how can anyone reply with an absolute ?
We dont know the sound of the op's complete system.
In fact we dont know what he or anyone else hears.
So how can we argue what we dont know.Is this Mock Court?
I use a TW GT table.Is it the best? I really dont know but it thrills me every time I listen and thats all that matters.
Again guys this is a hobby,stop turning it into self promotion and arrogance.
My rant for the day.And now Chico Hamilton is waiting.

Panni,

I was hoping to amuse you. Do some research on what people feel about PRAT. Does digital have PRAT. Most music recorded these days is done digital. Does R2R have PRAT? Does music have PRAT.

And to make it clear, should PRAT ever be the defining feature of music, our system, a turntable.

I just listen to music. Sometimes I get up & dance with my 3 year old, sometimes by myself. I just enjoy it. Even in my car I can enjoy it, my biggest problem with my stereo are the phone call interruptions.

So back to you Panni. Stop with the condescending tone. No need for it. If you want to join others here in that manner I can certainly take you on, but I am not out to insult or bash anyone unless they don't let up.

As Raul would say, enjoy the music.

As I would elaborate, enjoy the music, not the dissection of it into......